Seton Hall/Butler & Creighton/Providence

[MU/Panther]

Iceman still whining about the conference situation? Really??

With his Packers glasses, not understanding why it's good for a conference to be good.

[TedBaxter]

Boston College followed their football nose to the ACC. They were 0-8 in ACC games in football this year and are 0-17 in ACC games in basketball games so far. Bet their alums and fans are so happy they left the Big East.

[unclejohn]

Ironically, they won the Big East in their last season there.

[ValiantSailor]

What the SEC has going for it is Kentucky, so that adds to the perception of league strength.
There were years when the ACC was just Duke and UNC with the rest being average at best, but because they had two teams ranked high that made trips to the final four the perception was the ACC is a great conference.

What years were those? Maryland, NC State, Wake, and Florida State have all been powerful at various times over the last 30 years. UNC and Duke have been the most consistent, but they always had competition.

VS

[IWB]

Since joining the ACC, Boston College's record for conference games is...

Football: 32-40 44.4%

Basketball: 68-115 37.1%

[Goose85]

What years were those? Maryland, NC State, Wake, and Florida State have all been powerful at various times over the last 30 years. UNC and Duke have been the most consistent, but they always had competition.

VS

Not sure any of those teams has had any consistent tournament success over a long period of time where you would say the ACC is a great conference because of NC State, Wake, or Florida State.

Since 1990 the ACC only had final fours from Maryland in 2001 and 2002, and Georgia Tech in 1990 and 2004. People though the ACC was a great conference because Duke and UNC, and it really didn't matter if there was a third team.

[TheSultan]

Boston College followed their football nose to the ACC. They were 0-8 in ACC games in football this year and are 0-17 in ACC games in basketball games so far. Bet their alums and fans are so happy they left the Big East.

Considering the alternative of being in the AAC, I bet they are thrilled with their conference affiliation. There is no reason why they can't be better at athletics in the ACC.

They made three ACC championship games in four years in football. They finished 3rd and 4th respectively their first two years in basketball.

Their demise is almost entirely due to them making TERRIBLE coaching decisions under Gene DeFilippo who ran good coaches out of town and replaced them with bad ones. (His successor doesn't seem to be doing any better.)

[IrwinFletcher]

Since joining the ACC, Boston College's record for conference games is...

Football: 32-40 44.4%

Basketball: 68-115 37.1%

I have always wondered if Father Leahy would make a phone call to the Big East and see what it would take for them to get back into the BE. Add BC and then take your pick of SLU, Dayton, Valpo or whoever and that would be compelling. BC could go independant for football which actually might be a better scenario for them in the long run.

[TheSultan]

I have always wondered if Father Leahy would make a phone call to the Big East and see what it would take for them to get back into the BE. Add BC and then take your pick of SLU, Dayton, Valpo or whoever and that would be compelling. BC could go independant for football which actually might be a better scenario for them in the long run.

They would leave a league that is paying them $17 million per year on their television contract to go to one that pays just about $4 million? And I'm not including the bowl revenue for the conference that brought them $3 to 4 million last year. They aren't making up that difference as an independent.

Safe to say that phone call was never made.

[mufan2003]

Keep telling yourself that. It's a GOOD league...but it's NOT the ACC, SEC, BXII etc, or anywhere close to the old Big East. Don't you think it's ironic that MU has struggled badly, in a lessor league?? That's NOT the way it was supposed to be. I totally understand what being a strong conference means...look at what the old Big East did for MU. That's obvious...the problem is, this conference will NEVER do that for them, unless they get to the point where they are dominating it year in year out..then MAYBE. But no team has taken more steps backwards with this conference change than has MU...that doesn't concern you?? At all??

SEC bids over the last 3 years:

2013: 3
2014: 3
2015: 5

Being a 14 team conference, that is terrible. That conference has basically been Kentucky and Florida (when Billy Donovan was there).

ACC, a 15 team conference:

2014: 6
2015: 6


Big East (since becoming 10 teams):

2014: 4
2015: 6

A 10 team conference, that is very good, and likely will get 5 in this year. So years 2 and 3 of the 10-team BE, getting at least half of your league in the tournament. With two AP Top 5 teams, also shows the strength of the top teams in the conference. Now need some teams to make a deep run in the tournament.