BET Thread

[Nukem2]

Here we go....

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Can't win a thing without winning the first game. Nice start so far. 8-0 on the Derrick feed to Juan.

[MayorBeluga]

Didn't realize how much it sucks to play in the DePaul Invitational aka Wednesday at the BET. Never again.

[Mucrisco]

I like that play they were running. There was a shuffle screen, then a single/single screen. Then there were two more single/single screens for baseline runners. I might have to steal that one. It looks like a new play for Marquette.

[Mucrisco]

I'm a fan of Molly.

[Mucrisco]

And now they are running the Flex. Wow.

[Mucrisco]

Another good dish to a "post" and we can't finish. This has happened all year.

[Nukem2]

Duane and Luke need to be on the floor.........

[MayorBeluga]

Way too many unforced turnovers early.

[MU/Panther]

I love FS1, inside the huddle is great!

[Mucrisco]

Duane and Luke need to be on the floor.........

Looks like Wojo agreed.

[MayorBeluga]

I love FS1, inside the huddle is great!
FS1 is great if you don't have UVerse right now...

[Nukem2]

Derrick has now made 5 FTs in a row....!!

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

You guys are missing a great darts championship....(slowly banging head on wall)

[MayorBeluga]

You guys are missing a great darts championship....(slowly banging head on wall)

You didn't go to your local bar with your lovely spouse's blessing?

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

Cranking out some work at home so couldnt leave so not only am I working but I have darts on in the background - fun times, fun times.

[MUAlphaBangura]

Did Raftery just call me out as he was talking about Juan????

[kneelb4zerg]

So if we win we have to play the first game tomorrow? WTF is that?

[MayorBeluga]

So if we win we have to play the first game tomorrow? WTF is that?

Yup. Set up so 1 seed plays 1st game Thurs & Fri to get most rest. All based on 1 seed

[Nukem2]

So if we win we have to play the first game tomorrow? WTF is that?

The joys of being a 9 seed. No love lost on the bottom of the bracket.

[79warrior]

FS1 is great if you don't have UVerse right now...


FS1 ratings are weak enough without adding this to the mix. Really bad timing for UVerse customers.

[Mucrisco]

Carlino forced it too much those last two possessions. Fischer playing great!

[milkbone]

Derrick with 10 asts so far.

[MU/Panther]

FS1 ratings are weak enough without adding this to the mix. Really bad timing for UVerse customers.
I was surprised to hear there is only 7 million AT&T customers. The hold up in money is all the new Nascar events.

[WarriorsNuffSaid]

Just saw Dr. Lovell sitting next to Bucks owner Wes Edens. Good to see.

[MU/Panther]

Great audio on inside the huddle.

[Nukem2]

A good win for our guys tonight. Something to build upon. Can we imagine last year's team with Carlino........ :)

[MayorBeluga]

First 2 game winning streak since Big East play started? Anything else right now is icing on the gravy.

[Halo]

What a game. Rebounded and defended much better. Carlino on fire.

[milkbone]

Will Willard be fired within 10 days??

[Markedman]

So who saw that coming? Lol

[Nukem2]

Will Willard be fired within 10 days??
Yeah, His job is very tenuous now. Good recruiter from the Pitino tree, but can he coach...?

[IrwinFletcher]

Gotta make the fellas feel good to come to NYC and get a nice win. Get to stay over for another night.

Interesting that Wojo played 6 guys for the most part. Cohen didn't get in until the end and JJJ played about 12 minutes. Have to think the guys will be winded come 2nd half tomorrow.

[Markedman]

28 assists for MU......impressive....helps when Carlino makes almost everything he looks at......:cool:

[DCwarrior]

Will Willard be fired within 10 days??

He'll be lucky to make it through 10 hours

[Nukem2]

The thing that really strikes me tonight is the continued resurgence of Steve Taylor. He is figuring out what he can do post injury. We need him next year.

[MU/Panther]

All the double byes in 2012 and 2013, it's Juan and Derrick's first Big East Tournament win, the "soul of college hoops"

[MU/Panther]

So if we win we have to play the first game tomorrow? WTF is that? Protect the #1 seed.

[RJax55]

MU's first BET win since West Virginia in 2011. Amazing to see all the changes that have occurred since then.

[ValiantSailor]

Play of the game was Jim McIlvane protecting his laptop as the Seaton Hall player crashed into the announcer's table.

VS

[79warrior]

The thing that really strikes me tonight is the continued resurgence of Steve Taylor. He is figuring out what he can do post injury. We need him next year.


I have been been very encouraged by his play recently. Maybe he can have a breakout senior year.

[MU/Panther]

Halftime
Creighton 35 DePaul 33

[MU/Panther]

Just saw Dr. Lovell sitting next to Bucks owner Wes Edens. Good to see.When I read this the time you posted I thought you were talking about the Bucks game at the Bradley Center. I see in highlights they were both at center court at MSG.

[MU/Panther]

Point Spreads for Thursday
Villanova -14 over Marquette
Providence -2 over St. John's
Georgetown -10 over Creighton
Butler -1.5 over Xavier

[MU/Panther]

Providence up on St. John's by 11, 11 minutes left.

[MU/Panther]

Final
Providence 74 St. John's 57

Henton 20 pts & 12 boards
Dunn 17 pts & 11 dimes
Bentil 14 pts & 13 boards

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

It seems like St John's lays an egg in the BET every year. Complete waste of home court for them.

[MU/Panther]

It seems like St John's lays an egg in the BET every year. Complete waste of home court for them.

By the sound of the crowd, didn't notice a home court edge.

[MU/Panther]

Halftime
Georgetown 31 Creighton 25

[MU/Panther]

Six different lead changes. Creighton up 47-45, 8 minutes left.

[IrwinFletcher]

Is there a more overrated program than St Johns.

Would love to see them go get Jamie Dixon. Would have to think he wants to get out of Pitt.

[TheSultan]

St Johns is making the tournament this year. Lavin isn't going anywhere.

And Pitt isn't by the way.

[Nukem2]

St Johns is making the tournament this year. Lavin isn't going anywhere.

And Pitt isn't by the way.
Problem for Lavin is that he is losing a ton to graduation/eligibility.

[TheSultan]

Right. Next year might be different. But people are talking like he's a goner. I don't think that's going to happen even after next year.

[IrwinFletcher]

My point was that STJ has underachieved compared to the hype that Lavin brought when he came on board and he hasn't lived up to that hype. Yes, they are going to the Dance but are midling seed and it is unlikely they make it out of the first weekend.

And yes, I am aware that Pitt is not dancing. But it is known that Dixon was not a fan of the move to the ACC and might be willing to listen to offers from other schools and may in fact like the opportunity to get back to the Big East.

[warriorfan4life]

My point was that STJ has underachieved compared to the hype that Lavin brought when he came on board and he hasn't lived up to that hype. Yes, they are going to the Dance but are midling seed and it is unlikely they make it out of the first weekend.

And yes, I am aware that Pitt is not dancing. But it is known that Dixon was not a fan of the move to the ACC and might be willing to listen to offers from other schools and may in fact like the opportunity to get back to the Big East.

Dixon needs a new challenge, and I believe that he could do really well at St. John's. He has a strong history of recruiting New York area prospects.

[Nukem2]

Dixon needs a new challenge, and I believe that he could do really well at St. John's. He has a strong history of recruiting New York area prospects.
He is a CA guy. Suspect he would go West...?

[MU/Panther]

Going to overtime with Xavier & Butler tied at 53.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Going to overtime with Xavier & Butler tied at 53.

X pulls out the win, that locks them in, I think they were a lock even with a loss, but helps to cement it.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

My point was that STJ has underachieved compared to the hype that Lavin brought when he came on board and he hasn't lived up to that hype. Yes, they are going to the Dance but are midling seed and it is unlikely they make it out of the first weekend.

And yes, I am aware that Pitt is not dancing. But it is known that Dixon was not a fan of the move to the ACC and might be willing to listen to offers from other schools and may in fact like the opportunity to get back to the Big East.

Lavin has definitely underachieved. His recruiting has been good, put a few players into the NBA early, though lost a few due to transfer as well. But the results just haven't been quite there. Two bids in five years, two games over .500 in conference play, while I realize those are results DePaul would kill for, St. John's should geographically be one of the league's top programs. Not sure if Dixon would come, but him or either Hurley would be an upgrade in my opinion.

[MU/Panther]

Point Spreads for the Semi-Finals of the Big East Championship, the "Soul of College Hoops"

Villanova -8.5 over Providence
Georgetown - 2 over Xavier

[IrwinFletcher]

Bummed that Raftery is doing the B10 game on the BTN while Jackson is doing the BE semi final.

[MU/Panther]

Bummed that Raftery is doing the B10 game on the BTN while Jackson is doing the BE semi final.

Ya, me too. As you know Gus and Jim have been doing games together on FOX with the Pac-12 and Big East, so the chemistry is there. Glad that Raftery is on the A team on CBS.

[MU/Panther]

Halftime
Villanova 33 Providence 28
Hilliard and Hart with 10 pts for Villanova and Dunn with 11 pts, 4 dimes and 5 rebounds for Providence.

[Nukem2]

Archie having a tough game tonight.

[Markedman]

Not that we would have beat them anyway but all of those 3s they made against us yesterday are missing tonight ... Or so it seems

[Markedman]

Big 1 there by Hart......7-22 now from 3 for Nova

[Markedman]

Great game.....love a point guard who is strong with the ball in crunch time.....Arch made the play.....Dunn is a stud

[Nukem2]

Archie having a tough game tonight.
But does come thru with game winning FTs

[MUAlphaBangura]

Love Jay Wright saying there is no better place to play than the Garden. He and the other coaches are doing a great job of promoting the league.

[MU/Panther]

OMG, OMG, WHAT A GAME!

We got the Gus effect going. Like Rob Stone said, the Big East is back.

[MU/Panther]

Love Jay Wright saying there is no better place to play than the Garden. He and the other coaches are doing a great job of promoting the league.
While I agree with everything you said, I'll add that a person can flip on FS1 and feel the energy, buzz and roar of the crowd in MSG. My wife can tell from the other room when she hears the roar from the crowd.

[mufan2003]

Great game! Kris Dunn is a stud, I would be shocked if he's not off to the NBA. MSG looks packed. I am ready for MU to start making it to Friday and Saturday night!

[Gato78]

The Soul of College Basketball!

[mufan2003]

Flipped over to UNC/Virginia after watching a great Big East Tourney game. Game was over and they were going through highlights. Reece Davis brings on Joe Lunardi to discuss #1 seeds with Virginia losing and Villanova advancing. First they show Villanova/Providence highlights, then they bring in Lunardi.

Reece Davis starts out discussing Villanova winning by saying, paraphrasing, "Joe, what does Villanova winning mean, granted the Big East tournament is not quite the same as it used to be." Why say that? So the ACC has average teams from 7 through 14, likely will get 6 of 14 teams in. Big East has a better conference RPI, a lock to get 6 of 10 teams in, and now the 3rd rated #1 seed......and Reece Davis has to throw in a "granted the Big East Tourney is not quite what it once was?" I just shook my head and laughed. Wish I was on Twitter so I could tweet Reece Davis. Let it go ESPN.

[MayorBeluga]

Watching the games makes me miss being at the BET. For those who haven't done it yet, do it. Hard to explain until you've been there

[MU/Panther]

Putting who have twitter, which I don't have to send that message to Rece Davis!

[MayorBeluga]

Putting who have twitter, which I don't need to send that message to Rece Davis!

Don't bother - makes Big East fans look insecure. We knows espn's role here

[mufan2003]

Putting who have twitter, which I don't need to send that message to Rece Davis!

I was trying to drop that hint :D

[mufan2003]

The Soul of College Basketball!

That is a great slogan.

[MU/Panther]

Sorry, I typed wrong. I don't have twitter.

It's actually used by FS1, the "Soul of College Hoops". Gato heard that from me, I wish people actually heard that from FS1, but everyone should use it. Just like when Bill Walton says the Pac-12, Conference of Champions!

[MU/Panther]

Halftime
Xavier 35 Georgetown 26

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Xavier just has Georgetown's number this year.

[Gato78]

Xavier cannot stop Smith when he is in the game. Of cousre, Smith has been aided by the officials. Ran over a Xavier guy and got an and 1--worst call I have seen this season, and that is saying something. Watch Smith and officiating in the second half.

[Nukem2]

Xavier cannot stop Smith when he is in the game. Of cousre, Smith has been aided by the officials. Ran over a Xavier guy and got an and 1--worst call I have seen this season, and that is saying something. Watch Smith and officiating in the second half.
Guy was inside the arc. No love there.

[DCwarrior]

Georgetown just doesn't look good tonight. Smith-Rivera and Trawrick are invisible and nobody can hit a jump shot.

[Nukem2]

Georgetown just doesn't look good tonight. Smith-Rivera and Trawrick are invisible and nobody can hit a jump shot.

Yep, just look slow tonight like MU did yesterday.

[MU/Panther]

10-0 run by Georgetown.

[DCwarrior]

G'town on a 10-0 run and close to within 10. It's a game now.

[MU/Panther]

54-48 Xavier. 15 to 1 run by Georgetown

[DCwarrior]

2 point game with 20 seconds to go.

[MU/Panther]

Villanova a 7.5 point favorite. Games at 7pm.

[Nukem2]

Jay Wright needs to get a new suit...:rolleyes:

[TheSultan]

Gus Johnson sounds under the weather or something.

[MU/Panther]

Halftime
Villanova 34 Xavier 21

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Xavier just looking outmatched. Nova is really good. I can pretty much guarantee they'll be my pick out of the East Regional.

[TheSultan]

Xavier just looking outmatched. Nova is really good. I can pretty much guarantee they'll be my pick out of the East Regional.


A Nova / UVA E8 match up could be interesting though.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

I think UVa will maintain a 1-seed. Only 3 losses, worst is #16 Louisville. I'd guess...

Midwest - 1) Kentucky, 2) Kansas
East - 1) Villanova, 2) Duke
South - 1) Virginia, 2) Gonzaga
West - 1) Wisconsin, 2) Arizona

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

If Michigan State upsets Wisconsin, drop Bucky to 2 in the Midwest, bump Duke up to 1 in the West, Kansas goes to 2 in the East.

[TheSultan]

I can't see Wisconsin losing the first weekend.

[Nukem2]

I can't see Wisconsin losing the first weekend.
Matchups...always about matchups in one and done. We shall see. Unlikely, but you never know. Bucky stil misses Brust who was its microwave...

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

I can. This year's Big Ten is just so weak. Maryland is the only other legit team in the conference and Bucky couldn't beat them. Getting to the Sweet 16 will likely mean beating a better team than any they've beat since November.

[MUMac]

I can. This year's Big Ten is just so weak. Maryland is the only other legit team in the conference and Bucky couldn't beat them. Getting to the Sweet 16 will likely mean beating a better team than any they've beat since November.

Kaminsky is awfully good. Decker has improved. Gasser makes tough shots when they need it, ala Brust. If they are a 1 seed, I don't see an 8 beating them. I don't see a 7 beating them. I wish their fans and coach weren't asses. This could be a fun team to watch otherwise.

[TheSultan]

There isn't a 8 or 9 seed out there that is likely going to beat Wisconsin. Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa are all projected as 8 seeds or better. Wisconsin beat all three.

[DCwarrior]

I think a team like Providence (a likely 7 seed) could give UW problems. Big, physical, and athletic teams give Bucky problems (like Georgetown did earlier). Being well coached also helps and Cooley is a good coach.

[Halo]

Butler would give Wisconsin a heck of a game. But I don't see them losing until the Elite Eight.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Butler would give Wisconsin a heck of a game. But I don't see them losing until the Elite Eight.

I think St John's would give them a good half. They'd get destroyed in the second, though.

[IrwinFletcher]

I think St John's would give them a good half. They'd get destroyed in the second, though.

STJ is the exact kind of team that WI destroys. Undisciplined teams are no match for Bo and his team. Butler might match up better, but don't have the skills to beat them.

[Mucrisco]

Wisconsin will make the Final Four. Any other result would be a disappointing season for them.:D

[MUMac]

I think St John's would give them a good half. They'd get destroyed in the second, though.

Or it could go like this ... http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504457 :cool:

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Or it could go like this ... http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504457 :cool:

That was the reverse...SJU gave them a good game in the second after getting blitzed in the first. The Johnnies could play with Wisconsin for a bit, just no way I think they'd beat them over 40 ;)

[AlexJesswein]

or maybe not...



Seth Davis ‏@SethDavisHoops 10m10 minutes ago

St. John's announces that center Chris Obekpa is suspended for two weeks. Ranked 5th nationally in blocks per game.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Better to lose as a 10/11 seed than risk being embarrassed by Kentucky as an 8/9?