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MulliganMusings
04-08-2014, 07:17 AM
Last night, as a I watched UCONN derail Kentucky, I couldn’t help but think how the college game is so guard driven. Indeed, UCONN essentially featured two point guards in Napier and Boatright along with three serviceable, but certainly not overwhelming, front court players in Giffey, Nolan and Daniels.

I know, many of you will point out, that Napier is an All American and Boatright might not be far behind but looking at next year’s potential roster I can’t help but wonder if we might not have some guards who have the ability to break out and some front court players who can pay effectively within an up tempo offensive and pressing defensive scheme.

Of course then I think of those, on this board and others, that drone on incessantly about the need for bigs even, it often seems, at the cost of great guards. Say what you will about Buzz (and lately that seems to be a stream of invective and criticism) but I always thought his concept of “switchables” was perfectly suited to the college game. A roster of 6-4 to 6-8 players, who can multiple positions, provides you with flexibility and often creates match-up problems for teams with “traditional” bigs who cannot match up with players who are usually quicker and capable of scoring from the perimeter. A good example of this was our own Davante Gardner who when matched up with quicker counterparts with perimeter games was typically at a distinct defensive disadvantage as the opponent would take him outside only to use his quickness to take him off the bounce should Davante migrate out to guard.

Ahh, you might say, but when Davante’s on offense he regains the advantage by posting low and taking the smaller and (always) lighter opponent to the hoop. True, but I would argue the more versatile offensive game of the opponent not only serves to create offense for himself but also for his teammates while providing the additional benefit of causing Davante to work harder on defense causing fatigue that negatively impacts his offense.

Don’t get me wrong, Davante is easily one of my top 10 favorite MU players of all time. That said I take heart in the re-commitment of Sandy Cohen and hope that the other incoming freshman will follow suit; because, if they do, I really like the make-up of this team. While Satchel Pierce might be more of a traditional five it appears Luke Fisher can play in or out. This is a team built for up tempo basketball both in terms of offense and creating a baseline to baseline defensive pressure that last year’s team would not have been able to carry out.

WindyCityGoldenEagle
04-08-2014, 09:12 AM
I've always thought it was a guards game and still believe it is so I agree with you in this regard. However, I think many of us Marq fans who have seen solid guard oriented teams come up short bc of ineffectiveness of our bigs both offensively and defensively (Barro, Lott, even Lazar who i loved but never shouldve been playing the 5 as much as he did, etc) prefer to have some type of quality big down low - ideally over 6'8 as this provides us with a rim protector (and hopefully someone who is ideally at least serviceable on offense) and imo this balance enables you to take the next step in the tourney.

If I had to draw up my ideal center it would be Adrean Payne from MSU. The guy could do everything on offense (low block or take you out to 23 ft) and was also a rim protector on defense.

I was and still am completely fine with Buzz's comments that he always wanted a center, a pg and a bunch of switchables who could pass/dribble/shoot in every recruiting class. Howeve, one of the main problems with our team last year was that our best offensive guys were not our best defensive guys. So I would throw an additional item to my wish list and that is in an ideal world they are two way players who are not exploitable on either end.

MUfan12
04-08-2014, 09:29 AM
I was and still am completely fine with Buzz's comments that he always wanted a center, a pg and a bunch of switchables who could pass/dribble/shoot in every recruiting class.

The problem is he didn't have enough guys that did the latter. Switchables only create mismatches when they need to be guarded all over the floor.

WindyCityGoldenEagle
04-08-2014, 09:35 AM
The problem is he didn't have enough guys that did the latter. Switchables only create mismatches when they need to be guarded all over the floor.

agree completely. In theory I'm still a big believer in it.....it's just very hard to successfully achieve.

Markedman
04-08-2014, 12:19 PM
When I watched Duane Wilson in high school the player he reminded me of(at least potentially) was Napier.

It seems like a long way from untested freshman to first team all american and MVP of the final 4…………but that is who I thought of when watching him 2 years ago….

We can only hope…...:cool:

CaribouJim
04-08-2014, 01:02 PM
The problem is he didn't have enough guys that did the latter. Switchables only create mismatches when they need to be guarded all over the floor.

You need specialists as well - DG was a low post, for the most part, specialist. Didn't have enough shooting specialists or any real lock down defender or rebound specialists as well.

Goose85
04-08-2014, 01:08 PM
What UConn had with their two guards were very good scorers, driving and shooting the 3, and very good defensive guards that could extend the pressure.
Basicaly their best offensive players were also very good defenders.

Hopefully Burton, DuWilson, Dawson, and JJJ can bring the defense to go along with offense, and Juan can step up the offense to go along with defense.

Need to be able to have your best players on the floor for both offense and defense, something MU struggled with last season. Like others have said, maybe a less complex defense will allow for that. No idea what Wojo will run, but Duke does play frosh, granted they are normally top 10 recruits.

mufan2003
04-08-2014, 01:12 PM
A balanced team wins championships, but I do think if you had to lean one way or the other, I would prefer to have a team leaning on guards rather than frontcourt players. Look no further than MU this past season. As many accolades as the Harrison twins had coming into college, and Aaron Harrison's late game 3-point shots, those two did not do much throughout the course of 40 minutes last night. The CBS Sports Network panel were saying the Harrison twins had a vision since junior year of high school to be 1-and-done, but are not ready to go pro (but probably will). Julius Randle and James Young look ready.