MU-Villanova Today

[ge1974]

Why is no one discussing this game?
2pm EST, 1pm CST on regular CBS National TV.

Game article:
http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2014/03/02/3524928/marquette-eyes-upset-of-no-8-villanova.html

Article on improving Nova player Josh Hart:

http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/how-josh-hart-earns-minutes-no-8-villanova

Another game article. Not sure who wrote it but they pick MU to win 71-66:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/140302/preview-marquette-at-villanova

[BLT]

Nova is 2nd best in conference in three point percentage, while MU is 2nd worst in defending the perimeter. Otherwise, the teams are pretty close with MU holding a slight advantage in turnover percent, offensive rebounding and free throw rate. Nova a slight edge in defensive rebounding and assist rate, but again close.

Have to believe Nova will shoot it well at home although one can hope that the rims at Wells Fargo are not as soft. In nine BE games, opponents have shot 40% or more from beyond the arc on MU. The OT game vs. Nova the Cats shot 35.7% which is right at their season average. MU needs to guard the line although their talent is not a great match up for that as the season's story has shown time and again. Limit the line.

[MUfan12]

Not optimistic. MU is terrible at closing out on the perimeter. If they sell out to guard the three, Arcidiacono gets into the lane. In that first game, Nova got whatever they wanted. MU has regressed defensively since that game.

I can see this getting ugly, to be honest. Hope I'm wrong.

[mufan2003]

Go MU!!! Glad to have Kevin Harlan and Greg Anthony doing the game. Both very good at their craft. Harlan is a MU fan.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

This is a big game for their tournament chances and they know it. I don't know that we will win, but i don't think it will be a blowout. Let's pray for a Nova off day...

[DCwarrior]

This is a big game for their tournament chances and they know it. I don't know that we will win, but i don't think it will be a blowout. Let's pray for a Nova off day...

If they don't beat Nova today, I think they'll have to win the BE Tourney to get in.

[MU/Panther]

[QUOTE=MUFAN2003;57241 Harlan is a MU fan.[/QUOTE]
Do we really know that?

[mufan2003]

MU/Panther. True, he did not go to MU. His father went to MU. Kevin was born in Milwaukee and grew up in Green Bay. He was a teenager during MU's success in the 70's. Kevin mentioned on his TNT NBA telecast Thursday he was looking forward to calling the Marquette game on Sunday day. Always seems to talk complimentary of MU.

[MU/Panther]

MU/Panther. True, he did not go to MU. His father went to MU. Kevin was born in Milwaukee and grew up in Green Bay. He was a teenager during MU's success in the 70's. Kevin mentioned on his TNT NBA telecast Thursday he was looking forward to calling the Marquette game on Sunday day. Always seems to talk complimentary of MU.
I'm not one of those people where u have to go to that school to be a fan. You sold me!

I still have his call of the L'ville-MU game in 2004 at the BC on CBS. The Mason shot!

[TedBaxter]

Wasn't Bob Harlan the SID when Al started at MU?

[IWB]

Sorry - was out snowblowing until tip off. i assume some people were at church - most just nervous!

Game on!

[IWB]

Jayvaughn Pinkston - Had MU in final two - attended Buzz' infamous Elite Camp.

[Halo]

Hey Jamil Wilson-your career is about to end if you don't start playing.

[IWB]

Replay on that goal-tend, he never touched that ball.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Why did they count that? Jamil never touched it!

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Steve is Dawson's support against the press? Ugh...stupid stupid stupid.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Now a 10 second violation... This is starting to get ugly...

[Markedman]

He hit the backboard.....

Brutal job there by Dawson and Taylor against the press........Way too many turnovers...Jamil again a non factor....Jake passing up shots....

[ge1974]

I don't think you can touch the backboard - that's why the goaltending.

Our overall team basketball IQ is off the charts..literally.

[Nukem2]

He hit the backboard.....

Brutal job there by Dawson and Taylor against the press........Way too many turnovers...Jamil again a non factor....Jake passing up shots....
Buzz should have called a timeout.....

[TedBaxter]

Buzz didn't have a timeout for that 10 second violation? How many coaches do we have on the bench?

[MU_Iceman]

Great job MU, getting F'n rolled by Nova's back ups. What a f'n crap effort.

[TedBaxter]

Get on the ******* FLOOR FOR THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Markedman]

Nova is so much quicker and playing smarter and harder....pretty bad combination....

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

The basketball IQ is so low it's spreading to the idiot director that cut away from live play to show the stands.

[Nukem2]

Nova looks better w/o Arcidiacono. More ball movement..confusing MU

[IWB]

I don't know, the backboard rule is weird. I have seen guys slap the backboard and make it move with no call, he barely touched it.

[TedBaxter]

I think we need more guys with toughness. That's a sarcastic comment.

[Markedman]

Taylor still has that deer in the headlights look......

[Halo]

Put a fork in them. This team has zero heart and poor talent. Not very bright team and the coaching has been average.

Onto next season. Will be fun watching the Badgers likely going to a Final Four while MU in the NIT. What a disappointing year.

[AlexJesswein]

I think we need more guys with toughness. That's a sarcastic comment.

We need more skilled players. Hill fits that mold...Cohen maybe...not sure the rest do.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Bad on both ends. Missing a lot of obvious plays on offense. Derrick driving into two guys while ignoring a wide open JT on the wing. Lots of forced shots, not enough ball movement, not enough pushing into the paint. When Gardner draws a paparazzi sized crowd in the paint he needs to kick it out. Just dumb decisions.

[Markedman]

Derrick has been brutal

[MU_Iceman]

Nice lazy ass pass Derrick!!!

[TedBaxter]

Greg Anthony had the best comment I've heard all year. Villanova's players have better basketball instincts.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

As far as the execution of this team goes today, I'm in favor of it.

[Nukem2]

Taylor still has that deer in the headlights look......
Steve is really a center..? He struggles away from the hoop

[MU_Iceman]

MU with a huge size advantage yet getting worked on the boards...beautiful!!

[Markedman]

If you aren't sure that Cohen is skilled you haven't watched him play.

Shayok is also skilled.....other then being a great shooter..he can do everything else.


We need more skilled players. Hill fits that mold...Cohen maybe...not sure the rest do.

[MU_Iceman]

Way to kill the momentum Buzz!!

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Sweet, take the ball when JT clearly made the TO call, then give 'Nova BS free throws and the ball. Mick Cronin is right.

[Markedman]

Buzz just can't get a T there.....not when we had a nice run going

[IWB]

Replay showed Buzz right in front of ref calling Timeout - why they wouldn't give it to him is beyond me - 5 point swing before the half.

[MU_Iceman]

Great job Buzz!!! That f'n T stuck the dagger in!!! a 5 point swing. Had it to 6, could have had it to 4. Jeessus F'n.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Get it to 6, get hosed on Jake's timeout, down 11 at half. What utter garbage. Amazed we're this close.

[ge1974]

Jamil Wilson is one of the most talented players in MU history and probably the dumbest. Very low BB IQ. How could it let Hillard shoot that 3 at the buzzer???

[MU_Iceman]

Get it to 6, get hosed on Jake's timeout, down 11 at half. What utter garbage. Amazed we're this close.


This close?? 11 is close when most of what Nova did was with back ups on the floor, and they have gotten ZERO from Bell?? This one is over thanks to buzz's T!!

[Nukem2]

Get it to 6, get hosed on Jake's timeout, down 11 at half. What utter garbage. Amazed we're this close.
Should have been a travel on Jake...he was sliding before he called time out...?

[Markedman]

Hilliard destroying us by himself......

[Markedman]

That is a cheap shot.......wow....


Think Buzz is still that wanted by everyone in the world IWB? This team and coaching stinks.

[Halo]

That is a cheap shot.......wow....

Sorry. Just frustrated and deleted it. I don't think that was Buzz's best half or season. Maybe that's a little better.

[TedBaxter]

Should have been a travel on Jake...he was sliding before he called time out...?

Yep.

With MU hosting the NCAA, I'm assuming the first NIT game would have to be on the road.

[DCwarrior]

Not only is Nova a more talented team, but they're playing much harder and more smartly. That doesn't bode well for the 2nd half unless those last two things change considerably.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

Hilliard destroying us by himself......

Guy is killing us Yet jamil let's him get open on a simple cut to the ball at the end of the half. Horrible jamil, absolutely horrible.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

This close?? 11 is close when most of what Nova did was with back ups on the floor, and they have gotten ZERO from Bell?? This one is over thanks to buzz's T!!

Yes. This is close. They dominated us in the first half. Feels like we should be down 20. Go on a run to start the second and we can be right back in it.

[MU_Iceman]

Yes. This is close. They dominated us in the first half. Feels like we should be down 20. Go on a run to start the second and we can be right back in it.

Well, when you consider it should have been 6 or 4 at half....THEN you'd have something. Wait till Archie comes back and starts running circles around Dwill.

[MUfan12]

Yes. This is close. They dominated us in the first half. Feels like we should be down 20. Go on a run to start the second and we can be right back in it.

Or they get Arch and Bell back, and it goes up to 20.

They're not good enough to take plays off. Derrick letting Nova save that rebound, and then MU getting beat to the floor for the loose ball, was so typical of this team.

[MU/Panther]

Yep.

With MU hosting the NCAA, I'm assuming the first NIT game would have to be on the road.
You can play at the Al.

[Nukem2]

Or they get Arch and Bell back, and it goes up to 20.

They're not good enough to take plays off. Derrick letting Nova save that rebound, and then MU getting beat to the floor for the loose ball, was so typical of this team.
Actually, Nova looked much better without those two. More ball movement.

[IrwinFletcher]

Jamil's 1st half.

0 points
0-2 from the field
2 Assists
1 TO
0 rebounds
Missed pass on the break from Mayo
Brain fart at the end of the half.

This is the Senior that was supposed to lead us this year. Truly disappointing.

[TedBaxter]

That 2 man break with Todd and Jamail epitimizes this season. I was always taught that when you have a 2 on one, you spread out and Marquette's players have had the dribbler going down the center of the court and thus, not spreading out the floor and you don't have a passing angle. Basketball 101.

[Markedman]

Yep...not good fundamental basketball for a junior and a 5th year senior.....


That 2 man break with Todd and Jamail epitimizes this season. I was always taught that when you have a 2 on one, you spread out and Marquette's players have had the dribbler going down the center of the court and thus, not spreading out the floor and you don't have a passing angle. Basketball 101.

[MU/Panther]

The call was out of bounds, so why was the timeout not granted?

[IrwinFletcher]

A lot of empty seats coming out of half at the Wells Fargo Center.

Sorry, looking somewhere for some levity.

[mufansince72]

I'm just trying to enjoy the game. I have had no NCAA tournament expectations since about the third game of the conference season. I refuse to let myself get worked up anymore about this season.

[MU_Iceman]

I'm just trying to enjoy the game. I have had no NCAA tournament expectations since about the third game of the conference season. I refuse to let myself get worked up anymore about this season.


Most disappointing season in a long time. No question.

[IWB]

Think Buzz is still that wanted by everyone in the world IWB? This team and coaching stinks.

Yes, yes I do. How many schools have offered him before? How many schools offered him after he went to one NCAA tournament game?

Since then he has gone to 5 straight.

One average season with no true star, no true leader does not mean a coach is any less valuable than he was before.

[Markedman]

I'm just amazed at how much slower and less skilled we are then Nova....it's almost like they are the Globetrotters and we are the Washington Generals.

[BLT]

A lot of empty seats coming out of half at the Wells Fargo Center.

Sorry, looking somewhere for some levity.

Having beer for sale at an arena does that.

[Nukem2]

At what point do JaJuan and Deonte get on the floor today...?

[ge1974]

IWB, ask Buzz why this team was not ready to play today. They are getting outhustled all over the floor.

[MU/Panther]

A lot of empty seats coming out of half at the Wells Fargo Center.

Sorry, looking somewhere for some levity.

Not bad of a crowd, with the Villanova students gone for break.

[TulsaWarrior]

If Buzz Williams was a stock I would be buying heavily. A good broker does his research....looks at past performance and assets in the portfolio. This is a long term, smart investment.

[IWB]

I just can't figure out why they can't defend the 3. No, Nova hasn't been lights out, but they are completely wide open more often than not.

[Halo]

Team mailed it in today except Burton.

[Halo]

Never seen a team foul so many 3 point shooters as this team.

[MU_Iceman]

Team mailed it in today except Burton.

Maybe the Seniors want to play in the NIT. oh well, it's their legacy. They have to live with it.

[Markedman]

Nice to see Burton get a chance and step up

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

This whole year feels like opportunity squandered. I hope they can find a way to make the most of it, but this really feels like it will be a sour ending to the careers of some guys I really enjoyed watching.

[Nukem2]

Team mailed it in today except Burton.
Probably an unfair statement. All the flaws of this team showed up today.

[BLT]

Nice to see Burton get a chance and step up

Burton with 9 of 13 of MU's second half points. He just wants it vs. Jamil today.

[Halo]

I have no idea what Jamil Wilson has been doing as he pisses away his career.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

I honestly cannot believe these guys sometimes.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

So...Jamil come down with another case of the flu?

[TedBaxter]

Burton 11 points in about 5 minutes?

[Markedman]

I really hope Buzz shakes up the lineup/rotation again after today.......The Juan/Otule/Derrick starting lineup just doesn;t have enough scoring.....Give Burton a chance

[Markedman]

My gosh Derrick...you do everything good to get to the rim and then miss the layup?

[mufan2003]

Why take Burton out and put Jamil in?

[Nukem2]

Why take Burton out and put Jamil in?
Derrick and Jake have really struggled...it is what it is. They struggled mightily against Nova at the BC as well. Oops, should be in reference to Derrick's missed layup.

[TedBaxter]

I'd try to post up Gardner or Burton every time now. Hope they can get them the ball.

[Markedman]

Nova shooting 40% MU 39% and winning by 16

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

This team is just good enough to get my hopes up...

[MU_Iceman]

Buzz's stupid "T" finished this game, and with that any NCAA hopes. Thanks Buzz!

[Markedman]

Hard toi watch

[Markedman]

Maybe at least people can stop talking about an at large bid now................

[BLT]

Buzz's stupid "T" finished this game, and with that any NCAA hopes. Thanks Buzz!

Or Nova's 40% from three...

[Markedman]

Give me a break...we are down by 20....his T didn't lose the friggin game....it was stupid but let's not pretend it was the difference......


Buzz's stupid "T" finished this game, and with that any NCAA hopes. Thanks Buzz!

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

I'm not sure what irritates me more. The execution or the effort.

[IWB]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

[MU_Iceman]

Give me a break...we are down by 20....his T didn't lose the friggin game....it was stupid but let's not pretend it was the difference......

You give me a break!! Let's see....they were down 6 at that point....Nova scored 5 consecutive to push it to 11, then what 6 straight to start the 2nd half?? 11-0 run. Game, set, match, season. Why for once in your life marked can't you call a spade a spade??

[MU_Iceman]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

Unfortunately, with Xavier's win yesterday, a 3rd place finish likely won't happen. Probably 5th at this point.

[MUMac]

Maybe at least people can stop talking about an at large bid now................

Agreed. I never saw it. This team just has too many fundamental flaws.

[Markedman]

I think what is hard to take for MU fans is that we just aren't very good this year...it's been a quite a few years since we had to see that

[GOMU1104]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

Not with our resume.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

This team lost their shot at third when Xavier beat Creighton and we lost to 'Nova. 4th at best now, and based on the rest of the resume coupled with the way the bubble went yesterday, no.

[Markedman]

Are you asking me Jim?


Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

[kneelb4zerg]

Maybe the Seniors want to play in the NIT. oh well, it's their legacy. They have to live with it.

Nailed it.

[AlexJesswein]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

I'll say it until i'm blue in the face. Conference standing does not matter. MU's overall profile ranks behind VU, CU, XU, SJU, PU, and GU in terms of BE schools.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

I don't think it will get it done Jim, compare our resume to the schools currently listed as the last teams in and we are easily 2-3 top 50 wins behind them, not to mention most have a top 25 or better win, that is too large of a gap to make up at this point in my opinion... Sure could things break perfectly? Yes, but the odds of that are pretty low.

[TedBaxter]

Why? You don't think a 3rd place finish in the Big East is worthy of a bid?

Not when you can't beat a top team and MU doesn't have any quality wins.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

We are 3-4 wins from a bid. 3 in MSG or 4 overall. Considering how we've played against 'Nova and Creighton, I expect we're simply out.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Not when you can't beat a top team and MU doesn't have any quality wins.

GW and XU are unquestionably quality wins.

[warriorfan4life]

For an at-large, next loss can only be in Big East tourney finals.

[AlexJesswein]

We are 3-4 wins from a bid. 3 in MSG or 4 overall. Considering how we've played against 'Nova and Creighton, I expect we're simply out.

I'm not convinced that would even be enough. BET Championship or bust.

[mufan2003]

As frustrating as this loss is, before this game there was a thought that MU had to at least win 2 of the last 3 and 1 or 2 in the Big East tourney. If MU loses Tuesday, then BE Tourney champs is a must.

[Markedman]

I will call a spade a spade......If the T was late in a close game sure....I'll blame thew coach for the loss.....it wasn't a smart play but to say it cost us a win in a game that wasn't close? please....nobody knows what would have happened if he didn't get the T.....We were down 6 and Nova had the ball.......all it did was cost us 2 points......The 3 they made wasn't the result of the T..it was the result of Jamil letting Hillard shoot an open 3.....


You give me a break!! Let's see....they were down 6 at that point....Nova scored 5 consecutive to push it to 11, then what 6 straight to start the 2nd half?? 11-0 run. Game, set, match, season. Why for once in your life marked can't you call a spade a spade??

[AlexJesswein]

GW and XU are unquestionably quality wins.

So two top 50 RPI wins are enough?

[IWB]

Unfortunately, with Xavier's win yesterday, a 3rd place finish likely won't happen. Probably 5th at this point.

How do you figure? - If MU finishes by beating Providence & St. John's, they finish 11-7.
Xavier has Seton Hall & Villanova. They split the finish 11-7.
Providence has MU & Creighton. If they lose both the finish 9-9.
St. John's has MU. If they lose they finish 9-9.
Georgetown has Creighton & Villanova. They lose both they are 7-11.

Of course it all requires MU to win both remaining games, but it is the likely scenario.

[MU_Iceman]

Great effort today MU with your NCAA lives on the line. Just freaking end this season ASAP. Decline the NIT bid(if they even get one). It'd just be an embarrassment more than anything.

[Markedman]

JJ going to get some mop up minutes.....

[TedBaxter]

C'mon guys. The only chance MU has is to win the Big East tournament. That's the only chance now. Their RPI will never be high enough with the amount of losses.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

I'm not convinced that would even be enough. BET Championship or bust.

Would give us 9 top-100 wins and a top-25 win, along with a top-50 RPI. If we win our last two and make the final we are in.

That said, I don't expect us to do either.

[Djgoldnboy]

Great effort today MU with your NCAA lives on the line. Just freaking end this season ASAP. Decline the NIT bid(if they even get one). It'd just be an embarrassment more than anything.

Rational much? Any post season experience will be great for the younger players on the team. People are acting like we haven't won a game this year....

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Really decline the NIT bid? No way that happens... We will absolutely get an NIT invitation and accept it

[CaribouJim]

JJJ absence? Injury or what some have been thinking?

[Djgoldnboy]

And we get bumped for Indiana, again. Haha.

[MU_Iceman]

Rational much? Any post season experience will be great for the younger players on the team. People are acting like we haven't won a game this year....


You mean the younger players that Buzz doesn't play??

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

So two top 50 RPI wins are enough?

If we make the Big East final, we will have to beat 'Nova or Creighton. Three is definitely enough. Today sucked but the bubble is still soft.

[MU_Iceman]

Really decline the NIT bid? No way that happens... We will absolutely get an NIT invitation and accept it

I'm sure they will accept it, but quite frankly it's an embarrassment for a team that was unanimously picked to win the Big east. if you are okay with an NIT bid, that's your prerogative. I know the team must be okay with it, since they have played like that's where they have wanted to be all season.

[BLT]

Six double digit losses this year from an experienced team. Most under Buzz and there is still a good part of the season to be played. This has been a tough year for Buzz, and credit is due for staying with the guys as they made a run back despite no room for error. But, it was clear early on this team was going to underachieve and he should have gone with the future potential. Since he didn't, next season will be a total rebuilding project. NIT may be the better choice to extend the season and give the lads a chance to play some more minutes.

[Djgoldnboy]

You mean the younger players that Buzz doesn't play??

Yes. Even if they don't play. Say they make a little run in the NIT, they will experience the amped up practices, the next level of energy a tournament brings....there is plenty to learn, even if they don't see a minute of PT.

[kneelb4zerg]

As much as I loathe the NIT no one is turning down a bid. End of discussion.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

If we make the Big East final, we will have to beat 'Nova or Creighton. Three is definitely enough. Today sucked but the bubble is still soft.

Its getting much less soft by the day, lots of bubble teams picked up another good win yesterday.

[ge1974]

The ultimate insult - CBS just cut away to the Indiana - Ohio State game.

Y'all can defend Buzz all you want but TODAY, this team was out-hustled, out-coached, out-prepared and out-played. Does anyone argue with this statement?

I am a HUGE Buzz fan. However, from now on when recruiting, basketball IQ has to be towards the top of the characteristics for the guys he recruits. Although our team basketball IQ is atrocious this year it will improve simply by attrition next season. Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill and Luke Fischer all seemingly have good basketball IQs. Not sure about Satchel P. as I have not seen him play enough on video.

[IrwinFletcher]

How do you figure? - If MU finishes by beating Providence & St. John's, they finish 11-7.
Xavier has Seton Hall & Villanova. They split the finish 11-7.
Providence has MU & Creighton. If they lose both the finish 9-9.
St. John's has MU. If they lose they finish 9-9.
Georgetown has Creighton & Villanova. They lose both they are 7-11.

Of course it all requires MU to win both remaining games, but it is the likely scenario.

I think there is a great chance of MU losing both than winning both.

I will say it once again, St Johns is a terrible match up for us.

And winning at PU will not be easy.

[AlexJesswein]

I have a hard time seeing Buzz play the young guys any more than he is at the moment when we do get to the NIT

[CaribouJim]

Yes. Even if they don't play. Say they make a little run in the NIT, they will experience the amped up practices, the next level of energy a tournament brings....there is plenty to learn, even if they don't see a minute of PT.

If the young guys don't play in an NIT run that will beyond ugly. If MU is in the NIT I'm quite sure Buzz will rachet up the PT of the young guys w/ JJJ being a TBD. If not, I'm at a loss for words.

[kneelb4zerg]

The ultimate insult - CBS just cut away to the Indiana - Ohio State game.

Y'all can defend Buzz all you want but TODAY, this team was out-hustled, out-coached, out-prepared and out-played. Does anyone argue with this statement?

I am a HUGE Buzz fan. However, from now on when recruiting, basketball IQ has to be towards the top of the characteristics for the guys he recruits. Although our team basketball IQ is atrocious this year it will improve simply by attrition next season. Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill and Luke Fischer all seemingly have good basketball IQs. Not sure about Satchel P. as I have not seen him play enough on video.

Well yeah but people acting surprised that they lost at Villanova...why are you surprised/outraged? It's more than obvious that nova is a level above us, just like we were a level above them the last couple years.

I realize it's the pent up frustration from a season of lost opportunities and disappointments...but Nova was a double digit favorite for a reason.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

If the young guys don't play in an NIT run that will beyond ugly. If MU is in the NIT I'm quite sure Buzz will rachet up the PT of the young guys w/ JJJ being a TBD. If not, I'm at a loss for words.

I'll say Buzz does not up the young guys pt in the NIT

[IrwinFletcher]

People aren't surprised losing to Villanova. But coming out flat and showing no sense of urgency, no hustle and no awareness.

This win was the path to the Tourney. And the played like crap. That is what people are upset about.

[IWB]

Well yeah but people acting surprised that they lost at Villanova...why are you surprised/outraged? It's more than obvious that nova is a level above us, just like we were a level above them the last couple years.

I realize it's the pent up frustration from a season of lost opportunities and disappointments...but Nova was a double digit favorite for a reason.

Exactly - Nova is fighting for an overall #1 seed. Sure, we all would have like to have seen more out of MU today, but it is not like they got their asses handed to them by DePaul.

[TedBaxter]

SOTG. MU starters had 17 points. The freshman had 20.

[ge1974]

Well yeah but people acting surprised that they lost at Villanova...why are you surprised/outraged? It's more than obvious that nova is a level above us, just like we were a level above them the last couple years.

I realize it's the pent up frustration from a season of lost opportunities and disappointments...but Nova was a double digit favorite for a reason.

No, Nova was favored by 10 pts. However, I have seen bigger underdogs win. I am not out-raged but suprised and disappointed that they were out-hustled, out-coached, out-prepared and out-played. No excuses.

[AlexJesswein]

Exactly - Nova is fighting for an overall #1 seed. Sure, we all would have like to have seen more out of MU today, but it is not like they got their asses handed to them by DePaul.

Jim and Kneel--so you are pleased with the way they played?

I'm not surprised by the result...just disappointed by the effort

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Well yeah but people acting surprised that they lost at Villanova...why are you surprised/outraged? It's more than obvious that nova is a level above us, just like we were a level above them the last couple years.

I realize it's the pent up frustration from a season of lost opportunities and disappointments...but Nova was a double digit favorite for a reason.

I don't think it's so much surprise that they lost but how they lost. Double digit lead the entire second half. No fight on either end of the floor. Wide open threes for 'Nova start to finish. Routine dumb decisions with the ball. Seniors playing like they had no idea how important this game was. Stupid on offense and defense.

I knew losing today was a realistic possibility. But I didn't expect we would never have a chance. I disagree that Buzz's T was the deciding factor, but from that point we were never in the game. For a team with so much experience, with so much on the line, that's just sad.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Oh, and they didn't cut away on DirecTV in Milwaukee. I got the finish of the game and it came back after the commercial to a 2-1 Indiana lead. Those that missed the end (for all the excitement that was worth) just need a better provider.

[2012Warrior]

I think that play in the first half that the Nova guy saved the rebound and got two points out of it summed up this MU team. Yes it was a bad call, but in a game like this you can't let a play like that happen. I don't blame Derrick for letting it go, but him or Otule acted like they expected the ball to just go out of bounds. At a minimum, be ready to grab the ball when the Nova guy tries to save it and get a 5 on 4. Instead he "saved" it and they got 2 points out of it, when we had some momentum.

[IrwinFletcher]

Oh, and they didn't cut away on DirecTV in Milwaukee. I got the finish of the game and it came back after the commercial to a 2-1 Indiana lead. Those that missed the end (for all the excitement that was worth) just need a better provider.

Must be a Regional thing. DirecTV in Chicago cut away to the IU game.

[kneelb4zerg]

Jim and Kneel--so you are pleased with the way they played?

I'm not surprised by the result...just disappointed by the effort

To be fair I didn't watch the game bc I'm out of town. So I can't comment on the effort or lack thereof. At the same time Nova is head and shoulders better than us so I'm not surprised at the result obviously.

Bottom line sucky play or lack of talent most often means just not good enough.

[AlexJesswein]

To be fair I didn't watch the game bc I'm out of town. So I can't comment on the effort or lack thereof. At the same time Nova is head and shoulders better than us so I'm not surprised at the result obviously.

Bottom line sucky play or lack of talent most often means just not good enough.

Not going to disagree with that--I'm not all that upset with the result. This teams identity was revealed to us long ago.

[warriorfan4life]

Absolutely love how Nova plays, but they are too damn reliant on the three. When Buzz has the horses, Marquette plays the same way but looks more to score inside/get to the line.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

To be fair I didn't watch the game bc I'm out of town. So I can't comment on the effort or lack thereof. At the same time Nova is head and shoulders better than us so I'm not surprised at the result obviously.

Bottom line sucky play or lack of talent most often means just not good enough.

Today the effort was lacking. Not going to ground the way 'Nova was, more dumb decisions than I thought possible. All the good we've seen in recent weeks undone in 40 minutes. Jamil was awful, but not just in execution but also decision making. It was just bad basketball.

'Nova's better than us, but it's not like we don't have the guys to compete. If we played to a 10-point loss but were actually fighting it'd be one thing. This team looked like they knew they didn't belong from about 15 minutes in and just mailed the result from there.

[Nukem2]

Looking at Nolan RPI, the RPI is up to 68 now. Need these next two with the BET as a wild card. Let's have some optimism here.

[warriorfan4life]

I think Marquette can beat anyone, anywhere in the league except for Villanova and Creighton. Problem is, likely got to topple at least one of them in the Big East tourney.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

what was it prior to the game?

[Nukem2]

what was it prior to the game?
Believe it was 70 at Nolan ( which is the best as it is in synch with official NCAA #s each Monday. )

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

so it improved? bc of SOS im assuming?

[IWB]

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[IWB]

Jim and Kneel--so you are pleased with the way they played?

I'm not surprised by the result...just disappointed by the effort

No - not at all.