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Nukem2
12-21-2013, 09:09 PM
Coming up shortly. Will be very interesting.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 09:16 PM
Can't help but think our slow starts are due to who we start

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 09:17 PM
Can't help but think our slow starts are due to who we start
Hard to disagree.

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:17 PM
Anderson with two early turnovers does not help. Not sure why he passed up the open 3 to drive into traffic, resulting in a TO.

Markedman
12-21-2013, 09:21 PM
ugly early............

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:23 PM
ugly early............

We have said that a lot this year.

New Mexico looks much quicker and faster than MU.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 09:25 PM
Good to see STJ in the game

lj854
12-21-2013, 09:25 PM
Steve Taylor checks in, interesting.

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:26 PM
Steve Taylor with an early appearance. I guess that answers the redshirt question.

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:28 PM
Jake with two big 3's. Nice to see.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 09:28 PM
Jake Thomas adding value. I guess he needed a step and a half back from the line :p

Markedman
12-21-2013, 09:29 PM
ok that was better.....dumb decision by Derrick to try and take it to the basket with nothing there

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 09:30 PM
Jake Thomas adding value. I guess he needed a step and a half back from the line :p
actually, it's the inside out action that helps.

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:30 PM
Yeah, not really sure what Derrick was doing there. On the plus side, loved to see the floater. If he can do that, he will keep teams honest.

MUMac
12-21-2013, 09:32 PM
Getting abused on the boards right now.

pbiflyer
12-21-2013, 09:36 PM
And once again, the sub has a career night against us! Ugh!

Markedman
12-21-2013, 09:58 PM
Excellent first half from Jake and Mayo......really liked the way Mayo played......

MUMac
12-21-2013, 10:01 PM
Excellent first half from Jake and Mayo......really liked the way Mayo played......

Agreed on both points. On Jake, I liked how he moved without the ball. He also played well on the defensive end. Mayo looked good. I was concerned about how he would do with the mask. Nice play. A little struggle early on, but then played well. Derrick Wilson also played well. At least within what MU needs from him offensively.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 10:22 PM
Is that Cullen Neal or Jean Felix?

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 10:30 PM
Need to tweak the starting lineup. Just comes out slow now.

Markedman
12-21-2013, 10:31 PM
New Mexico picking apart our double teaming D......Good shots not as easy to come by in 2nd half....Gardner not making good decisions

MUMac
12-21-2013, 11:01 PM
This game was ready for Jamil to take over. He just can't do it. A shame.

Markedman
12-21-2013, 11:01 PM
Offense really bogged down in the 2nd half.......

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 11:02 PM
Jamil has missed shots. The real problem is that NM is not paying attention to our PG.....

Markedman
12-21-2013, 11:03 PM
Going to have to be really good in conference to make the tourny now........very disappointing non conference

MUfan12
12-21-2013, 11:04 PM
This team stinks.

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 11:05 PM
This team stinks.
Worst post of the year.

MU_Iceman
12-21-2013, 11:06 PM
Going to have to be really good in conference to make the tourny now........very disappointing non conference

LOL It's over...it was over when they lost to SD State in Anaheim...MU NIT(Not in Tournament). Makes me want to puke.

Markedman
12-21-2013, 11:06 PM
Buzz didn't trust JJ to play...maybe because Jake and Mayo played well? No inieout offense in the 2nd half at all....lots of one on one crap off the dribble

MUMac
12-21-2013, 11:08 PM
Buzz didn't trust JJ to play...maybe because Jake and Mayo played well? No inieout offense in the 2nd half at all....lots of one on one crap off the dribble

Yeah, I was surprised to see that JJ did not play much at all. Burton almost nothing in the 2nd half. Nothing to lose now, Buzz. Take the straps off the Frosh. What we have hasn't been working. Leading to 5 non conference losses.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:08 PM
Worst post of the year.

At some point you are the summation of your results.

Markedman
12-21-2013, 11:08 PM
Offense looked so good in the first half and so bad in the 2nd.....amazing

MUfan12
12-21-2013, 11:11 PM
At some point you are the summation of your results.

Thank you.

How's this, Nuke? This team stinks against good competition. Better?

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:11 PM
Yeah, I was surprised to see that JJ did not play much at all. Burton almost nothing in the 2nd half. Nothing to lose now, Buzz. Take the straps off the Frosh. What we have hasn't been working. Leading to 5 non conference losses.

Yet I say it and I'm a hater

Markedman
12-21-2013, 11:12 PM
Very few turnovers forced.....didn't really isrupt them at all in the 2nd half.....no easy baskets....

MUMac
12-21-2013, 11:13 PM
Yet I say it and I'm a hater

At some point you are the summation of your posts.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:14 PM
At some point you are the summation of your posts.

I have posted here for years, providing a ton of info to the boards. I have no reservations about any of my posts

MUMac
12-21-2013, 11:15 PM
I have posted here for years, providing a ton of info to the boards. I have no reservations about any of my posts

Past history. You have trolled more than anything this year. It's what you have become. MUBasketball even asked you about it. You are what you are.

BLT
12-21-2013, 11:17 PM
We are all emotional right now...but can someone explain to me what Buzz is thinking with this team...rationally? It defies me but there has to be something else going on from Day 1 of this season with the effort and line-ups...Dukiet effort.

MU_Iceman
12-21-2013, 11:18 PM
If you would have told me at the beginning of the year that this team would have 5 non conferences losses, and before New Years playing for a #1 seed in the NIT, I would have bet anything I owned/have against that. Can't remember a more disappointing non conference than this one in the last 10 years or so. Disgusting. Thanks Vander!

MUMac
12-21-2013, 11:21 PM
In the 2nd half, the ball stopped too much. First half, when MU had some flow, they were moving the ball. Frustrating to watch when it sits there. Easy to defense. It ends up settling for a difficult one on one drive. I just do not recall another time under Buzz when there was so little ball movement.

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 11:21 PM
At some point you are the summation of your results.Young MU Fan4.. Whatever happened to you...?

mufansince72
12-21-2013, 11:22 PM
Jamil has missed shots. The real problem is that NM is not paying attention to our PG.....

Who has. There is no reason to.

pbiflyer
12-21-2013, 11:23 PM
I have posted here for years, providing a ton of info to the boards. I have no reservations about any of my posts

Posted here for years. This board hasn't been around for that long.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:24 PM
Past history. You have trolled more than anything this year. It's what you have become. MUBasketball even asked you about it. You are what you are.

Just frustrated with what has taken place.

--Frustrated with Jamil. He hasn't taken the same step we saw from Jae, Jimmy and Lazar.
--Frustrated with Jake Thomas starting. The fact he has hit just 2 fg from inside the arc says it all. His role should be a bench 3pt specialist
--frustrated with Buzz's lack of trust in the freshman. Yes, they will make mistakes but you take the lumps for the higher ceiling.
--Frustrated with the injuries/transfers. I had Duane, Steve and Jameel in our rotation coming into the season.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:24 PM
Posted here for years. This board hasn't been around for that long.

On marquette boards, c'mon

EDIT: I have been on Marquette boards since I was in 7th grade. I am now 24 years old. That post just reeks of ignorance.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:25 PM
Young MU Fan4.. Whatever happened to you...?

I'm still here!!! This team has just disappointed me based on my own preseason expectations

mufansince72
12-21-2013, 11:28 PM
Just frustrated with what has taken place.

--Frustrated with Jamil. He hasn't taken the same step we saw from Jae, Jimmy and Lazar.
--Frustrated with Jake Thomas starting. The fact he has hit just 2 fg from inside the arc says it all. His role should be a bench 3pt specialist
--frustrated with Buzz's lack of trust in the freshman. Yes, they will make mistakes but you take the lumps for the higher ceiling.
--Frustrated with the injuries/transfers. I had Duane, Steve and Jameel in our rotation coming into the season.

Can't argue with you!

Nukem2
12-21-2013, 11:34 PM
I'm still here!!! This team has just disappointed me based on my own preseason expectationsYou could say it better....

MUBasketball
12-21-2013, 11:35 PM
I'm still here!!! This team has just disappointed me based on my own preseason expectations

I'm disappointed too but being a true fan (p.s.I'm not questioning you're fandom, I know you) means sticking by the guys through the up's and the down's. I support these guys through it all so I get so pissed when the diehards on this board bash the guys when they are struggling. Thats what the fair weather fans do!

You've been a bit of a prick lately and I don't get it. Losing brings out the worst I guess.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:35 PM
You could say it better....

I expected a big east title contender...just like the opposing coaches did. This team has looked far from it

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:36 PM
I'm disappointed too but being a true fan (p.s.I'm not questioning you're fandom, I know you) means sticking by the guys through the up's and the down's. I support these guys through it all so I get so pissed when the diehards on this board bash the guys when they are struggling. Thats what the fair weather fans do!

So I should just be happy with everything because it happened that way?

warriorfan4life
12-21-2013, 11:37 PM
Still really like this team, and think were two games better then our current record. Much closer to being really good then the pollyannas want to admit, but need to trust in themselves against good teams. Similar to 2010-2011, and hopefully this team does not have a Louisville collapse to mentally overcome. Disappointed in the sense that we're not getting a good seed in NCAA's, but optimistic that this team puts together a strong run of play and is hell to play in February and March.

eastly
12-21-2013, 11:37 PM
Next season doesn't hold any more promise. The frontcourt, especially, will be challenged...to say the least.

mufansince72
12-21-2013, 11:40 PM
Still really like this team, and think were two games better then our current record. Much closer to being really good then the pollyannas want to admit, but need to trust in themselves against good teams. Similar to 2010-2011, and hopefully this team does not have a Louisville collapse to mentally overcome. Disappointed in the sense that we're not getting a good seed in NCAA's, but optimistic that this team puts together a strong run of play and is hell to play in February and March.

You are still high:) This team isn't getting any NCAA seed unless they win the conference tournament. I would like to point out that this is not being a bad fan, but a realistic one. I have supported the team since I was ten years old, and continue to through thick and thin. Won't stop me from saying how I feel though. Why do you feel this team is two games better than their current record. That is just ridiculous! It's not like they are losing on buzzer beaters.

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:40 PM
Still really like this team, and think were two games better then our current record. Much closer to being really good then the pollyannas want to admit, but need to trust in themselves against good teams. Similar to 2010-2011, and hopefully this team does not have a Louisville collapse to mentally overcome. Disappointed in the sense that we're not getting a good seed in NCAA's, but optimistic that this team puts together a strong run of play and is hell to play in February and March.

I'm optimistic that Buzz will figure things out (despite the tone of my posts). The one BIG, BIG, BIG difference is the lack of opportunities for big wins.

MUBasketball
12-21-2013, 11:47 PM
So I should just be happy with everything because it happened that way?
No, you support the team and dont become a whiny bitch during a down year....just an idea. NO program avoids lumps, it happens. Extremely spoiled fan base.

mufansince72
12-21-2013, 11:48 PM
No, you support the team and dont become a whiny bitch during a down year....just an idea. NO program avoids lumps, it happens. Extremely spoiled fan base.

I'm not spoiled. I have been watching them and supporting them since 1972, through the good and the bad. It is called realism!

AlexJesswein
12-21-2013, 11:52 PM
No, you support the team and dont become a whiny bitch during a down year....just an idea. NO program avoids lumps, it happens. Extremely spoiled fan base.

To say I don't support them is entirely off base from reality. I cheer just as hard as the rest of you during games.

Yes this team will, take their lumps and I realize that. I am not expecting perfection. When there are things that I feel could/should be changed I will point them out. Again, just because I don't support 100% of Buzz's decisions (not playing JJJ/DB more) does not mean that I am ungrateful or spoiled.

MUBasketball
12-21-2013, 11:57 PM
I'm not spoiled. I have been watching them and supporting them since 1972, through the good and the bad. It is called realism!

Anybody on these boards is a big fan. I just get frustrated when people turn into assholes when the guys struggle.

And yes, this is a spoiled fan base. Every team - even the blue bloods - have hiccups. I'm not throwing in the towel yet but its not looking promising.

MUBasketball
12-22-2013, 12:01 AM
To say I don't support them is entirely off base from reality. I cheer just as hard as the rest of you during games.

Yes this team will, take their lumps and I realize that. I am not expecting perfection. When there are things that I feel could/should be changed I will point them out. Again, just because I don't support 100% of Buzz's decisions (not playing JJJ/DB more) does not mean that I am ungrateful or spoiled.

Again, not questioning you're support or fandom. We're all frustrated. Losing sucks. Lets hope they got a run in them.

mufansince72
12-22-2013, 12:03 AM
Anybody on these boards is a big fan. I just get frustrated when people turn into assholes when the guys struggle.

And yes, this is a spoiled fan base. Every team - even the blue bloods - have hiccups. I'm not throwing in the towel yet but its not looking promising.

I think the students and younger fans may be a little spoiled. Those of us who have watched the team for 40 or 50 years are not spoiled. My kids who are 18 and 21 are spoiled in regards to watching the Packers. They don't remember the team being bad, so they don't appreciate it.

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
12-22-2013, 12:43 AM
What I don't understand is how calling out your team for poor play makes you any less of a fan? I love MUBB as much as anyone, that said this team isn't performing against top level competition and quite frankly isn't up to our normal standard, I think Buzz would be the first to admit that. I'll still be at every home game, watch every road game and hope like hell, but that doesn't mean I can't call it like it is.