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Phantom Warrior
03-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Images of our last two Sweet 16 games keep popping into my head as both Florida and UNC pretty much dominated us. Both games left a bitter residue.

This has been a remarkable season so far, and today we are basically playing with house money. I just don't want a repeat of our last two Sweet 16 appearances.

I think we have a chance to win, but if we don't, I hope we at least make the game competitive throughout. I would hate to end this season with performances like we had against Louisville or Florida this year.

This group has come too far and has too much to be proud of to go out the same way the last two groups did.

TedBaxter
03-28-2013, 12:02 PM
How much of an advantage, if any, does MU have by playing in the last two Sweet 16's? Jim Larranaga (sp?) has coached at that level, but none of his players have been to the second weekend that I know of, outside of maybe the kid who transferred from Florida.

TheSultan
03-28-2013, 12:04 PM
Honestly, I can't imagine it is much of an advantage....at least not enough to make that much of a difference.

IWB
03-28-2013, 12:09 PM
I think it could be an advantage - when MU made the tournament in Wade's first year against Tulsa(?), MU was in a timeout and drawing up a game winning play - Wade said he did not want to take the shot. So they designed something else. Don't underestimate the nerves/pressure of a kid who has never been there before.

MU_Iceman
03-28-2013, 12:16 PM
I think it could be an advantage - when MU made the tournament in Wade's first year against Tulsa(?), MU was in a timeout and drawing up a game winning play - Wade said he did not want to take the shot. So they designed something else. Don't underestimate the nerves/pressure of a kid who has never been there before.

Exactly. It's a bigger advanatge then some might think or realize, at least in my opinion. MU has been there, done that as far as the sweet 16 goes...Miami never has. This is a "business" trip for MU. For Miami, and the players even spoke to it "were going to enjoy this as much as possible". They are just happy to be here. Let's see how they do when the REALLY bright lights of the Sweet 16 come on, and the nerves really start hitting them. Say what you want about it being "just a basketball game". It's not. Also, don't discount a small advanatge(but an advanatge nonetheless) MU will also have of having played at the Verizon center. Vander alluded to the fact they are "comfortable" there, stay in the same hotel etc.

TedBaxter
03-28-2013, 12:17 PM
Good point on having played in the Verizon Center.

Markedman
03-28-2013, 12:17 PM
UNC dominated us....that is not my recollection of the Florida game. We made a good run at Florida but just couldn't buy a shot from our best players and came up short......I never felt like we were out classed in that game like we were against UNC the year before.

Orlando
03-28-2013, 12:26 PM
UNC dominated us....that is not my recollection of the Florida game. We made a good run at Florida but just couldn't buy a shot from our best players and came up short......I never felt like we were out classed in that game like we were against UNC the year before.

This is how I remember it also. We actually had the ball down 6 with about 4 minutes to play in the Florida game. I remember feeling very disappointed after the Florida game, because it had been so winnable. Florida did not play very well either. I thought we had let a real opportunity slip away.

MUMac
03-28-2013, 12:35 PM
It is a point I have made earlier. UNC and Florida had much more experience than MU (UNC had been to two Final 4's with some of the players and Florida had been to the Elite 8 the year before). It doesn't take a whole lot to make a difference in a matchup in the Sweet 16. It could be how they start or how they end. The lights are brighter.

I thought experience also played against MU in the Final 4 against KU.

Not saying it is a deciding factor, but to say it has no impact is not correct either.

bleedbluegold03
03-28-2013, 12:36 PM
I was at Newark for the UNC debacle, I drove home accepting that we lost to a better team.

I was numb by the drubbing Florida gave us last year and I resided to the fact that while we should have won that game, they had a more talented roster.

Being so jaded from the last two season, I told my 5 friends who drove down to the game that I'd be watching this one from home and I'll fly overnight if we secure the S16 W.

Needless to say the last two years' blow outs have really tempered my expectations of this team at this level.

bleedbluegold03
03-28-2013, 12:37 PM
I do think having most of roster at this level before can help but I think playing at the Verizon Center multiple centers helps massively from a familiarity perspective

AlexJesswein
03-28-2013, 12:38 PM
I do think having most of roster at this level before can help but I think playing at the Verizon Center multiple centers helps massively from a familiarity perspective


Wasn't the UNC game at Seton Hall's place?

MUMac
03-28-2013, 12:40 PM
This is how I remember it also. We actually had the ball down 6 with about 4 minutes to play in the Florida game. I remember feeling very disappointed after the Florida game, because it had been so winnable. Florida did not play very well either. I thought we had let a real opportunity slip away.

As I recall, we had what we thought was either an offensive foul or flagrant foul that should have been called on Florida that wasn't. Don't remember the time/score, but I thought we were down 4 with under a minute to go (maybe under 30). That call goes our way, it could have been different.

TheSultan
03-28-2013, 12:46 PM
Wasn't the UNC game at Seton Hall's place?


Yeah...but Iceman made some pretty good points. I think MU may have been happy to be there a la Miami. Learning from the mistakes of the past two years is most certainly helpful.

Awilhelmscream
03-28-2013, 12:47 PM
As I recall, we had what we thought was either an offensive foul or flagrant foul that should have been called on Florida that wasn't. Don't remember the time/score, but I thought we were down 4 with under a minute to go (maybe under 30). That call goes our way, it could have been different.

Yup, someone threw an elbow or pushed someone if I recall. After that our guys just didn't seem to play as hard.