NCAA Seeding...?

[Nukem2]

Hoping for a 4 seed, but a 5 seed is quite possible depending on remaining conference tourney outcomes. Disappointing game last night, but still am satified what has been a very successful season for a team with flaws but a lot of heart. Lets go Warriors...! :)

[kneelb4zerg]

I'll go with a 5, but not as concerned about the number as I am about the matchup. If we play an uptempo team that presses we are toast.

[CaribouJim]

I think a 4.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

At this point we are at the mercy of the teams still playing. We had a chance to control our own destiny and we fumbled it away. That said according to Bracket Matrix last night the teams behind us were Arizona, Kansas St., Ok. St., Syracuse, Pitt, St. Louis, and Wisconsin. We were the top 4 seed at that time, so figuring that Arizona and the winner of tonight's Ok St./KSU game will pass us that would leave us as the #3 4 seed. Pitt is out so they won't pass us, but the other remaining teams (UW, SLU, and Cuse) could very well leap frog us if they make a run.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Also a 5 seed scares me because that means we have the dreaded 5/12 matchup to worry about, I would suck to get UK in the first round.

[Nukem2]

MU's RPI is still at a 12, so who knows.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21878810/marquette-is-one-and-done-in-the-big-east-semis-paint-a-pretty-picture

At the bottom of this article Norlander predicts a 5 seed for MU.

[pbiflyer]

I am okay with a 4 or 5 seed as long as we don't get stuck with a really good 12 seed like KY. Also, it would be nice to be in the same bracket as a #1 Gonzaga.

[TheSultan]

My guess....#4 v. #13 Valpo

[bleedbluegold03]

it all depends on what you think Marq has a better shot at:

4 seeds get the best mid majors which normally show senior-laden, disciplined teams

5 seeds get the worst high majors that under-performed for the year or had a mediocre resume.

That being said, if tO$U loses today, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see the committee place them and us as a 4 / 5. They always seem to put in a few narratives and that one seems pretty easy to me.

[Nukem2]

Lunardi still has MU as a 4 seed in today's updated bracket.

[ge1974]

Jerry Palm as us a #4 seed, as well at CBS.

Personally, I am not so sure as I think we may drop to a #5; especially if Syracuse beats Georgetown tonight. They would move up to a #3 and we would be matched at #5 with Pitt from the Big East. Since the selction committee does not want teams from the same conference meeting each other until the regional final, it is sometimes necessary to drop teams a notch to satisfy the committee's desire.

[Nukem2]

Yes, do not want a Cuse win tonight.

[mufansince72]

I think we were a four before last night. I now think we will be a 5.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

We want SLU, UW, Syracuse, and Arizona to lose. Pitt has no chance of passing us, and I think we stay ahead of the loser of the KSU/OSU game tonight. That said with a run any/all of those teams I mentioned first would pass us.

[MU_Iceman]

We want SLU, UW, Syracuse, and Arizona to lose. Pitt has no chance of passing us, and I think we stay ahead of the loser of the KSU/OSU game tonight. That said with a run any/all of those teams I mentioned first would pass us.


Still have no idea why UW is even mentioned on the 4-5 line?? With their RPI(I know not the be all end all), they are more like a 6-7.

[kneelb4zerg]

Still have no idea why UW is even mentioned on the 4-5 line?? With their RPI(I know not the be all end all), they are more like a 6-7.


What will it be when they are done beating Michigan?

[MU_Iceman]

What will it be when they are done beating Michigan?

35...still not 4-5 seed range IMO. If MU is a 4 with an 11 RPI, then no way UW should be a 4 with an RPI of 35.

[Nukem2]

Exactly where it was before the game...it's at 43.
Nolan RPI now has UW at 35 RPI with MU still at 12. Nolan, which is very accurate, is updated immediately at end of a game.

[TedBaxter]

The Badgers laid 51 on Michigan is the second half. Wowza.

[kneelb4zerg]

They're looking at more than just RPI for this stuff, aren't they though?

[IWB]

How in the hell does a team score 17 in one half and 51 in the next? Got to wonder if the Franions who feel the slow down game is the way the game should be played were puking during the second half like a fat kid on a roller coaster yelling, "SLOW DOWN!!! GET ME OFF OF THIS THING!! PLEASE STOP!!!"

[MU_Iceman]

They're looking at more than just RPI for this stuff, aren't they though?

Yes...But let's compare MU vs. UW just for fun...

MU


Record vs. RPI


1-50 7 - 6
51-100 3 - 1
101-200 8 - 1
201+ 5 - 0

Away 5 - 6
Neutral 2 - 2

23-8 overall; BE conference Champions, Head to head win vs. UW, one bad loss vs. UWGB

RPI-12[ SOS-10; Non Conf SOS-140

UW

Record vs. RPI


1-50 7 - 7
51-100 5 - 2
101-200 4 - 1
201+ 6 - 0

Away 5 - 6
Neutral 2 - 1

will be 21-11 entering the tournament. Bad loss vs. Purdue. Loss to MU head to head. 4th place finish in the B10(technically a tie for 5th).

RPI-35 SOS-18. Non Conf SOS-199

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

There realistically isn't a HUGE difference between UW and MU right now. We may get the nod because of our head to head win against them, but if they manage to win another one or two I can easily see them leap frog us. According to Bracket Matrix they were the lowest 5 seed coming into today and we were the highest 4 seed as of last night so they have a long way to go, but its not impossible. Had we beaten ND last night id have said we were pretty solid, but now I am nervous.

[MU_Iceman]

Update: I did some research back to 2007....and in only 3 instances did a team that had as many as 11 losses get a 4 or a 5 seed.

2011-West Virginia(20-11), but they had an RPI of 11
2007-USC(23-11)-They made the title game of the Pac 10 that year; Va. Tech(21-11). I can't find RPI records far back enough to tell you what the RPI's of USC and Va. Tech were, but I will bet everything I have that it was nowhere near as high as UW's current RPI of 35.

So, what I'm saying is...only 3 teams since 2007 have gotten a 4 or 5 seed with 11 losses(which UW will have going into Sunday), and in NO instance(a very safe bet) has any of those teams had an RPI as high as UW's is this year. Basically if they got a 4 or 5 seed with that many losses and an RPI in the mid 30's...I'm guessing would be unprecedented in the history of the NCAA tourney since the RPI was implemented(or at least adjusted). And for sure hasn't happened in the last 10 years. Basically it would be an absolute travesty for them to get a 4 or 5 seed this year.

[Markedman]

If UW wins tomorrow their RPI won't be in the mid 30's anymore but I agree with you. I went back further and only found 1 4 seed in the last 10 years that was as high as a 4 seed with 11 losses(Maryland won the ACC tourny and got a 4 seed at 19-11 back in 2003 I think).

5 is certainly possible for UW but if history is a guide not very likely

[warriorfan4life]

If UW wins tomorrow their RPI won't be in the mid 30's anymore but I agree with you. I went back further and only found 1 4 seed in the last 10 years that was as high as a 4 seed with 11 losses(Maryland won the ACC tourny and got a 4 seed at 19-11 back in 2003 I think).

5 is certainly possible for UW but if history is a guide not very likely

I thought UW was a 6 going into today, and is probably a 5 now. A win tomorrow, and they could very well be a 4. Got a feeling that our old friend TC may get some revenge on Bucky tomorrow though.

[mufansince72]

How in the hell does a team score 17 in one half and 51 in the next? Got to wonder if the Franions who feel the slow down game is the way the game should be played were puking during the second half like a fat kid on a roller coaster yelling, "SLOW DOWN!!! GET ME OFF OF THIS THING!! PLEASE STOP!!!"

Look at MU VS Cincy for the answer to that question!

[IWB]

Look at MU VS Cincy for the answer to that question!

No, I absolutely refuse to look at any part of this year's MU-Cincy game.

[MU_Iceman]

If UW wins tomorrow their RPI won't be in the mid 30's anymore but I agree with you. I went back further and only found 1 4 seed in the last 10 years that was as high as a 4 seed with 11 losses(Maryland won the ACC tourny and got a 4 seed at 19-11 back in 2003 I think).

5 is certainly possible for UW but if history is a guide not very likely

Correct marked...After I posted that, I went back a few more years just for kicks. 2003 on Maryland is correct and they did in fact win the ACC tourney. We also all remember the Gerry McNamara 2006 year when Cuse had 11 losses, won the Big East tourney and got a 5. Then in 2004 Ga. Tech also got a 5(I believe) with 11 losses, but they made the titale game of the ACC tourney. So it has happened, but it's rare and it's been under extraordinary circumstances(winning conf tourney title etc), but I'm willing to bet it's NEVER happened with a team with an RPI that high. They are a 6 or a 7 in my estimation.

[Markedman]

Palm has them at a 6 right now......Lunardi has them as a 5.

[MUMac]

it all depends on what you think Marq has a better shot at:

4 seeds get the best mid majors which normally show senior-laden, disciplined teams

5 seeds get the worst high majors that under-performed for the year or had a mediocre resume.

That being said, if tO$U loses today, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see the committee place them and us as a 4 / 5. They always seem to put in a few narratives and that one seems pretty easy to me.

Not sure I agree with the 5 seed comment. The NCAA loves the 5/12 seed with upsets. They typically place good high majors (anyone remember Tulsa?) in that spot. I do NOT want a 5 seed.

[mufansince72]

No, I absolutely refuse to look at any part of this year's MU-Cincy game.

Well, you should look at the second half as that may have been one of the two best half's of Basketball that MU played all year.

[Nukem2]

After the Cuse-Georgetown game, I suspect a 5 seed is coming...?

[MUMac]

After the Cuse-Georgetown game, I suspect a 5 seed is coming...?

Why? MU still finished tied for the BE title. Still has a 12 RPI. Right now, I think you pull for Louisville to win out. They get the 1 seed, Georgetown a 2 seed and MU a 3 seed. Cuse, while winning the past two games, really limped into the tourney and I doubt they leap ahead of MU.

[Nukem2]

Why? MU still finished tied for the BE title. Still has a 12 RPI. Right now, I think you pull for Louisville to win out. They get the 1 seed, Georgetown a 2 seed and MU a 3 seed. Cuse, while winning the past two games, really limped into the tourney and I doubt they leap ahead of MU.
What if Cuse beats Ville....? Whatever, it's in the hands of the committee and who knows. Hope we get the 4, but we shall see.

[MUMac]

Cuse may win it all, but that is not what you said. You said this outcome makes MU a likely 5 seed. Maybe Cuse vaults all the way up above MU, but maybe not. They still have a weak last 10. Decent RPI. If they move to a 3, that does not mean MU drops to a 5. What happened to the 4 line? What happened to another 3 seed?

Not following the logic that the Cuse win all but guaranteed MU is a 5 seed.

[mufansince72]

I think MU was the first ranked number four seed going into last night. I think losing knocked them to the five line.

[MUMac]

I think MU was the first ranked number four seed going into last night. I think losing knocked them to the five line.

Why? They drop 4 spots on that loss, but anyone else loses does not drop? Does Duke drop out of the 1 spot because they lost today?

MU may be a 5, but I am not sure the events of yesterday (MU/ND) or today (Cuse/Georgetown) are what will decide that.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

The issue is that MU lost and the teams that were percieved as 5 seeds heading into the conference tournaments are still alive and winning (see Syracuse, SLU, UW, Kansas St.) luckily for us Arizona lost so that helps, and I still think that Wisconsin and Syracuse are behind us, but with one more win each we would likely drop.

[MUMac]

The issue is that MU lost and the teams that were percieved as 5 seeds heading into the conference tournaments are still alive and winning (see Syracuse, SLU, UW, Kansas St.) luckily for us Arizona lost so that helps, and I still think that Wisconsin and Syracuse are behind us, but with one more win each we would likely drop.

That is how I see it. The events of Thursday and Friday, alone, did not move us to the 5 seed. MU could still end up there, but today and tomorrow would impact that. I really wanted a Georgetown/Louisville final. That would have definitely kept Syracuse behind MU.

[Halo]

MU could have saved all of this angst by beating ND. Not sure if they will move down or not, but they didn't help themselves or hold serve. Combined with some around them winning, it could move them a little. We'll see. Need Cuse to lose tonight.

[MU_Iceman]

If there was a way to research it, I would, but I'd be shocked if any team in the history of the NCAAs with an RPI of 12 like MU has was as low as a 5 seed.

[MUMac]

If there was a way to research it, I would, but I'd be shocked if any team in the history of the NCAAs with an RPI of 12 like MU has was as low as a 5 seed.

I would add that a team that had tied for the regular season championship of a high major conference.

Not sure where MU ends up. The resume shows some nice and some not so nice. The committee may debate MU for awhile.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Everyone keeps throwing out that RPI number. Every year the committee looks more and more at other things, yes it still matters, but it does not mean MU won't be a 5 seed. From my understanding RPI doesn't mean a hell of a lot anymore other than a way to figure out SOS, top 50 wins, top 100 wins, etc... Which really means MU being the RPI #12 team just does more for who we played.

[warriorfan4life]

If there was a way to research it, I would, but I'd be shocked if any team in the history of the NCAAs with an RPI of 12 like MU has was as low as a 5 seed.

The RPI will not matter, but the conference championship will. I think MU gets a 4 seed, but I would actually be more surprised at a 5 then a 3.

[Nukem2]

Everyone keeps throwing out that RPI number. Every year the committee looks more and more at other things, yes it still matters, but it does not mean MU won't be a 5 seed. From my understanding RPI doesn't mean a hell of a lot anymore other than a way to figure out SOS, top 50 wins, top 100 wins, etc... Which really means MU being the RPI #12 team just does more for who we played.Not totally true. Sometimes a high RPI is simply a result of a low mid-major team with a 25-1 record or so like Vermont a few seasons ago.

[mufansince72]

The RPI will not matter, but the conference championship will. I think MU gets a 4 seed, but I would actually be more surprised at a 5 then a 3.

I see very few paths to a four seed. Five seed much more likely, with a slight chance at a six.

[kneelb4zerg]

I see very few paths to a four seed. Five seed much more likely, with a slight chance at a six.

As of last night, we are the first 4 seed according to the bracket matrix.

http://bracketmatrix.com/

So, there appear to be plenty of "paths" to the 4 seed.

[Gato78]

We are Marquette. We always get screwed by NCAA. We will get a 5 or 6 seed and end up out west.

[mufansince72]

We are Marquette. We always get screwed by NCAA. We will get a 5 or 6 seed and end up out west.

Gato gets it!

[mufansince72]

As of last night, we are the first 4 seed according to the bracket matrix.

http://bracketmatrix.com/

So, there appear to be plenty of "paths" to the 4 seed.

If you believe the committee thinks that MU is one of the top 16 teams in the country, they will get a four seed. If you think like I do that the committee probably views them as somewhere between 17-24, they will get a five or a six.

[kneelb4zerg]

If you believe the committee thinks that MU is one of the top 16 teams in the country, they will get a four seed. If you think like I do that the committee probably views them as somewhere between 17-24, they will get a five or a six.

Why would they view us as 17-24?

The matrix nailed our seed last year, FWIW, so I'm not buying the "NCAA screws us all the time argument." Our numbers are too good this year.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix_2012.html

[TheSultan]

Man, MU types really can feel victimized....screwed by refs...screwed by the NCAA....

About the only time it could be argued that we got screwed seeding wise is when we got screwed by going out to Boise to play Utah State a couple years ago. Other than that it has been hard to argue with our seeding. The bracket matrix is usually spot on, and I think we are a 4. And if we drop we go to a 5. And that means a tough matchup in the second round either way.

[mufansince72]

OK, look at it this way. Lunardi's latest S curve as of 3:30 PM EST Friday had MU as number 14. Syracuse was 15. I think you would have to assume that Syracuse has now moved past MU on the S curve line based on their victory over Gtown last night. Wisconsin was 18. They beat Michigan. You have to believe that Wisconsin moved up a few notches on the S curve with that victory. My point is that MU is only on the four line by two spots. They could very easily move down to the five line just based on yesterday's results.

[Gato78]

Sultan: we are the school that was repeatedly dissed by NCAA in the Al McGuire years such that Al eschewed NCAA in 1970 and went to NIT. The NCAA banned our bumble bee unis. Did you see the crap Cincy and the Domers were wearing this week? Our paranoia is justified as it relates to the NCAA.

[mufansince72]

Last year was the first year I remember us being seeded where we the fans thought they should have been since the field was expanded from 48 teams. Prior to that you can take our expected seed, subtract one or two, and you will have MU's seed.

[warriorfan4life]

I will go back to 2003, and for the most part we have gotten fair treatment from the committee

2003, 3 seed, which was right in line with projections

2006, 7 seed, right in line with projections

2007, 8 seed, which was a couple seeds low based on resume, but not when you factor in the McNeal injury

2008, 6 seed, which may have been one seed low, but in part because of a cluster of Big East teams on 1,4, and 5 lines (I think we should have gotten ND's 5 seed)

2009, 6 seed, fair given DJ's in injury

2010, 6 seed, 1-2 seeds too high

2011, 11 seed, a seed or two too low in my estimation, but I also thought that team was better then resume

2012, 3 seed, fair and in line with projections

[TheSultan]

Sultan: we are the school that was repeatedly dissed by NCAA in the Al McGuire years such that Al eschewed NCAA in 1970 and went to NIT. The NCAA banned our bumble bee unis. Did you see the crap Cincy and the Domers were wearing this week? Our paranoia is justified as it relates to the NCAA.


35+ years ago. It might be time to let it go.

[Gato78]

Probably time to let it go but that is where it all started.

[mufansince72]

Pretty sure the combination of Syracuse beating Gtown and Wisconsin beating Indiana just knocked MU off the four line if they were there to begin with.

[Markedman]

Let's see if UW wins tomorrow before we give them a 4 seed. If they lose that will give them 11 losses...only 1 team with 11 losses has ever been a 4 seed as far as I can tell.

Ditto for Syracuse...regular season means more then the conference tournament...if they win tonight they might pass us...if they lose I doubt it.

We could certainly be on the same line as either or both of them as well.

[mufansince72]

They just beat two very highly ranked teams.

[kneelb4zerg]

They just beat two very highly ranked teams.

I think you are focusing too much on the most recent results and not seeing the bigger picture.

[mufansince72]

If MU just knocked off two highly ranked teams the day before selection I would see it your way.

[MUMac]

If MU just knocked off two highly ranked teams the day before selection I would see it your way.

Again, yours is a short term view.

UW has a couple of bad losses also in the mix. They have a weak nonconference resume. They also struggled a bit at the end of the Regular Season.

If all that matters is the conference tournament, let's do away with the regular season.

[Markedman]

Lunardi just updated....Michigan 14...MU 15...UW 16.....All are 4 seeds

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Gotta remember the committee doesn't look at the last 10 anymore, nor do they look at if a game was non-conf, conference, or conf tourny game. They look at who did you play, who did you beat. They are going to view the entire résumé as a package, now obviously UW going on this run adds a few top 50 wins to their resume and makes their RPI better, but just because we lost to ND and they beat UM and IU doesn't mean that everything that preceded that is gone. That said with another top 10 win today their résumé compares really close to MU's, and having two wins over the generally presumed top overall seed is going to carry ALOT of weight. It will be very interesting to see how things play out.

[Markedman]

My question about Gonzaga.....Has a school with a 76 SOS ever gotten a 1 seed?

[TheSultan]

My question about Gonzaga.....Has a school with a 76 SOS ever gotten a 1 seed?

St. Joseph in 2004 had an 86 and got a 1 seed. They lost to Oklahoma State in the Elite 8.

I bet some of the UNLV teams from the 90s had pretty low SOS too.

[mufansince72]

That S-Curve is through games on Friday. Syracuse losing tonight may drop them to the four line. Wisconsin winning today most certainly would jump them ahead of MU. Looks like a five seed to me.

[Markedman]

Lunardi updated the S-curve after UW beat IU.....Kansas State 13(losing right now) Michigan 14. MU 15 UW 16

[mufansince72]

Lunardi updated the S-curve after UW beat IU.....Kansas State 13(losing right now) Michigan 14. MU 15 UW 16

It also says that it's through games of Friday.

[Markedman]

You may be right but I'm not sure why he would update the S-curve but not use latest results? Then that is not really an update......either way....Kansas State may have just fallen behind us......

We certainly won't be a 3 but a 4 is still a very real possibility.......I really have a hard time seeing UW getting to the 3 line know matter what happens tomorrow but I guess we will know tomorrow. Good chance both teams get a 4....

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

No way were we ever going to be a 3 after we lost to ND. That said I don't see KSU dropping below us for losing to Kansas in the conference championship game. I think there is an arguement for UW passing us, and if Syracuse wins tonight that could be all she wrote for MU's 4 seed, it will be very close though and depends how the selection committee weighs the different metrics. The huge advantage we have is if they view us as even with Cuse and UW we have head to head wins against both which has to count for something.

[Markedman]

Syracuse is already ahead of us...Lunardi has them on the 3 line....4 seeds are MU, Michigan, Wisconsin, and KSU....

[MU Viking]

2002: we got screwed with a 5 seed when a 4 was deserved. We had an outside shot at a 3, I think.

2007: 8 seed was a screw job even with McNeal's injury. Should have been a 5-6.

[Markedman]

Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in that selection room? I mean lets say that Miami wins the ACC tourny......now I know it is body of work....but isn't somebody going to say at some point...."How do we give Duke a 1 seed over Miami when they won the regular season AND conference tourament titles?" I wonder if that has ever happened? One team wins both and gets seeded behind a team in the same conference?

FYI for picking your brackets......IIRC no team has ever lost their first game in a conference tournament and gone on to win the national title.....so that would eliminate Duke....and MU unfortunately.....

[Markedman]

So we are now tied for 12th with Memphis in the RPI. IF UW wins tomorrow we will likely end up 12th...if they lose it will be 13...not that it matters at all at this point.


Seeding is already done I'm sure...only bracketing remains

[MU_Iceman]

So we are now tied for 12th with Memphis in the RPI. IF UW wins tomorrow we will likely end up 12th...if they lose it will be 13...not that it matters at all at this point.


Seeding is already done I'm sure...only bracketing remains

Idk, I saw Greg Saheen on at halftime of UL-Cuse I believe or maybe before the game and he said tomorrow they focus on seeding. I thought it would have been done by now too, but apparently not.

[IWB]

With the pod system, getting screwed doesn't always have to do with the seeding either. The NCAA always says they will give special consideration for teams that have been forced to travel in past years.....

2012: @ Louisville
2011: @ Cleveland - could have been in Chicago, but VCU got that seed.
2010: @San Jose
2009: @Boise
2008: @Anaheim
2007: @Winston-Salem
2006: @San Diego

Yep, that is a good stretch of special consideration there.

[TheSultan]

IWB, correct me if I am wrong, but the only time we should have gotten special consideration as a top four seed was when we went to Louisville last year....and I believe that was the closest site we could go to.

[Awilhelmscream]

IWB, correct me if I am wrong, but the only time we should have gotten special consideration as a top four seed was when we went to Louisville last year....and I believe that was the closest site we could go to.

I know I'm not IWB but the committee says they give consideration for schools that have previously had to travel long distances. Problem is with 9-10 BEAST schools making the tourney they put more stock in avoiding second round regular season or conference matchups. We should have had some special consideration in the past due to long travel for multiple years.

[TheSultan]

I know I'm not IWB but the committee says they give consideration for schools that have previously had to travel long distances. Problem is with 9-10 BEAST schools making the tourney they put more stock in avoiding second round regular season or conference matchups. We should have had some special consideration in the past due to long travel for multiple years.


OK, thank you for that explanation.

[IWB]

I know I'm not IWB but the committee says they give consideration for schools that have previously had to travel long distances. Problem is with 9-10 BEAST schools making the tourney they put more stock in avoiding second round regular season or conference matchups. We should have had some special consideration in the past due to long travel for multiple years.

Why should only the top four seeds get special consideration? Consideration should be given in every seed.

Who are the 8 seeds in order? A, B, C & D. Ok, where is the closest spot for A? Put them there. B? Sorry, conference member already there, you get the next option. Seed C gets next and so on.

They do everything they can to keep teams like Duke and UNC at home. I don't give a frog's fat ass what seed you are, they should try to keep you close regardless of your seed.

As stated many times before, I think the pod system sucks ass. Regions are regions. No one placed in the East Region bracket should ever play in Boise. Its dumb. Oh, we do it to try to help sell tickets.....BS. You do it to help the top 10 teams. Guess what? Teams will all buy tickets if the travel is reasonable, but it usually isn't. Oh, and you created the pod to help sell tickets? Here's an idea, if Boise can't sell out, stop putting games in Boise. Any round with the exception of the Final Four relies heavily on the local season ticket holders. Well - I don't care if New Orleans is hosting a Final Four in three years, quit giving them the 1st & 2nd round. Tulane fans don't buy tickets, so you have to move Duke & ND there to try to sell tickets? Dumb. It isn't that flipping hard.

[Awilhelmscream]

I almost forgot about there almost always being a pod based out of the research triangle/tobacco road area. That's truly what pisses me off the most about the tourney. Hey, Duke, UNC, and NCST here are your tourney home games please enjoy!