11.24 Jacksonville

[Jimmy Lemke]

We're up 7-0 early.

Running thread!

[Jimmy Lemke]

Sounds good, Jordan Aaron and Demetrius Harris doing well early.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Demetrius is "100% in his Mexican career" - Priceless by Bill.

[Jimmy Lemke]

15:57 to go, the team's doing well.

[uwmpanthers10]

Looking good so far ... need to keep pushing the pressure and not let the opponents get a foothold

[Jimmy Lemke]

Luckily they called the foul on Haarsma there, because this team needs Bobo to not be in foul trouble.

Really worried with the amount of fouling that Bobo and Jay O are doing early in the season. With Paris on the mend, it's not good that the Panthers have a serious lack of depth at guard while we're fouling.

Up 14-6

[Jimmy Lemke]

Crap. And-1 gives Bobo a second foul.

[royalty414]

Bobo with 2 fouls early. Maybe time to see Evan play?

[uwmpanthers10]

Bobo is an extremely aggressive defender, if we get refs that are quick on the whistle, he'll pick up 2 fast. Needs to learn to be a bit more conservative.

(As I type, theres 2 on Bobo)

[Jimmy Lemke]

Jordan seems to lose the handles on the ball on occasion for no reason.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Oh my god Harris just stepped on the baseline. Awesome.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Good lord Jacksonville just took the freakin lead. What the hell is happening here?

[royalty414]

We're so inconsistent. Why can we never beat a press?

[Tyrunner0097]

We're so inconsistent. Why can we never beat a press?

Have we ever?

[royalty414]

Haarsma got Haarsma'd. 2 on James

[Jimmy Lemke]

Haarsma called for an offensive foul. On the wrong side of the flop this time. What the hell?! Bill just made mention of 80's wrestler Adrian Adonis lol

[Jimmy Lemke]

I like this thread! What do you guys think, does Haarsma flop too much?

[uwmpanthers10]

Kelm, Arians, Wolf, and Richard are on the floor at the same time, this is looking scary

[royalty414]

So... looks like JJ and Evan may get some minutes the way the whistle is blowing today.

[Jimmy Lemke]

For commercial reading: Victor Panther has awoken from his hibernation to write a new Panther Tracks blog:

http://www.milwaukeepanthertracks.com/

[royalty414]

So much for that fast start

[Jimmy Lemke]

This game is somewhat reminiscent of the MKE-Texas State game from a couple years ago. A lot of fouls. Except that game was never really in flux.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Kevin O'Connor and Bill Johnson are laughing at how bad the officials are. KJOC NEVER does that.

[royalty414]

I wish this game was at the Klotsche. Some of us may have been kicked out of the student section by now.

[Jimmy Lemke]

I wish this game was at the Klotsche. Some of us may have been kicked out of the student section by now.

So big.

Nice shot Mr. Miagi, whoever that is!

[Jimmy Lemke]

Wow Bill Johnson just shouted at the Jax coach hahaha

[uwmpanthers10]

We need Big Meech to step up here with no Haarsma for the rest of the half probably ... need his interior strength to open up the three for Jordan and Austin

[Jimmy Lemke]

All the frustrations that Haarsma has right now, he has to calm down and focus that energy into playing well in the second half.

[royalty414]

We need different voice alongside Bill. Kevin doesn't cut it.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Jay-o bay-bee

[Jimmy Lemke]

Kevin doesn't have the "radio voice" but he's one of the top three minds in Panther Hoops along with Paul Spicuzza of our podcast and...some other guy.

[DKelly28]

This is still quite concerning.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Something I've noticed is that the referees have been a major subject of every game for nearly a year. Is it that we're just blaming or has the officiating really been that bad?

[Tyrunner0097]

Harris is playing like I do: Can't make a layup to save his life.

[royalty414]

This is UGLY

[Jimmy Lemke]

It sounded like he got fouled.

Corderio Fleming is All-Name team caliber.

Big Meech just drew an offensive foul.

[royalty414]

Hey! We got a call

[uwmpanthers10]

Roelke got into the game before the under-8 timeout, yet again playing more significant minutes than JJ. Pretty much down to the lack of depth at guard but still very telling about how JJ has been played so far this year

[Jimmy Lemke]

Maybe these are Mexican referees who think they're calling rugby.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Roelke got into the game before the under-8 timeout, yet again playing more significant minutes than JJ. Pretty much down to the lack of depth at guard but still very telling about how JJ has been played so far this year

I think what's more telling is Wolf's minutes compared to JJ's, since they are both "posts." JJ is learning the post. Today would be a good day to get him some time, if only we could get the lead and separate.

[uwmpanthers10]

It sounded like he got fouled.

Corderio Fleming is All-Name team caliber.

Big Meech just drew an offensive foul.

I like Jeremy Bogus, think the students could have some fun with that last name if this was at the K

[royalty414]

I think officiating is that bad. We don't get calls from BCS refs and Horizon League refs are awful. There are maybe two respectable refs in the entire conference and the rest seem to play favorites or are just that lost when it comes to making consistent calls

[royalty414]

Bobo back in with 2 fouls.

[DKelly28]

This type of play quite frankly is embarrassing.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Big gamble with Bobo, but I see it. They need him.

[Tyrunner0097]

All I keep seeing on GameTracker is missed layups and turnovers...can't seem to do the little things, period...

[Jimmy Lemke]

Down 6, very sad.

[Derek Spallone]

Whats going on in the game thus far?

[Jimmy Lemke]

Ugh two missed layups lead to an eight-point lead for Jax.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Austin arians just saved the game!

[Tyrunner0097]

Well, A.A could be the needed spark...

[Jimmy Lemke]

If you are out of the listening area, you can search for 1130 WISN's live feed on IHeart.com, the IHeartRadio app.

[uwmpanthers10]

Eww... This is worse than UALR, which I didn't think was possible

[Jimmy Lemke]

IHeartRadio is WAY ahead of the regular radio feed. By about 25 seconds.

[royalty414]

Evan is awful! He has yet to play without picking up a cheap foul. And as I type that, he turns the ball over

[Jimmy Lemke]

You know what's occurring to me? We are a much, much better team at home than on the road. I mean, we are VERY GOOD in Milwaukee. And very marginal on the road.

[Derek Spallone]

Whats Jacksonville record?

[uwmpanthers10]

10 Turnovers 2 Assists (according to gametracker) in the first 16 minutes ... just atrocious basketball

[royalty414]

On a positive note, I had a dream about AJ Pacher's mom last night...

[Tyrunner0097]

Whats Jacksonville record?

They are 2-4

[Derek Spallone]

Dang we gotta step it up! And your correct we are not very good on the road but a very good home team. That is the only problem especially when Horizon League play starts up!

[royalty414]

You know what's occurring to me? We are a much, much better team at home than on the road. I mean, we are VERY GOOD in Milwaukee. And very marginal on the road.

We're a great road team when fans travel to games. We win a lot of games on the road in conference play.

[Jimmy Lemke]

We've had few assists to many turnovers a few times this season.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Did we just get caught in a shot clock violation? Ugh.

[Tyrunner0097]

UGHHH!

Can't stand turnovers and missed easy layups!

Nothing irritates me more than not being able to do the little things...

[Jimmy Lemke]

33-21 good lord.

[royalty414]

Looks like getting to Mexico wasn't enough for this team to worry about. Looks like they have plans on the beach tonight that are more important than this game

[uwmpanthers10]

down 12, I kinda don't want to listen to this any more.

[Jimmy Lemke]

A turnover out of a timeout. Just disgusting.

[DKelly28]

Yeah, good luck trying to get people to come to games playing like this.

[Tyrunner0097]

Looks like getting to Mexico wasn't enough for this team to worry about. Looks like they have plans on the beach tonight that are more important than this game


I had a bad feeling when I saw those snorkling pictures....

[Tyrunner0097]

Guess we need to add lay-up drills to free-throw drills now...

J.F.C!!!!!

[royalty414]

Yeah, good luck trying to get people to come to games playing like this.

Again, this game, tomorrow's game and the UALR game were not televised. No students (other than the ones on this board) are listening, so nobody will know... Hopefully

[Jimmy Lemke]

I mean good lord, this is just atrocious.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Bill just mentioned Kelm AGAIN afraid to shoot! What the hell!

[Jimmy Lemke]

Good. Let Jeter rip into those punks.

[Tyrunner0097]

Can't ANYONE make a F'ing LAYUP?!?!

[Jimmy Lemke]

No more warm games. Only in igloos.

[royalty414]

This team doesn't care. There's no heart in any one of our players. That's what's been lacking since Ant left

[Jimmy Lemke]

Someone needs to step up and lead.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Halftime: 37-23.

Garbage. Absolute garbage. Change needs to happen.

[royalty414]

I'm so far beyond livid that it doesn't even matter anymore

[Tyrunner0097]

32% from the field, 1-8 on 3's, 4-8 from the line, 12 turnovers....all I need to know this team can't beat ANYBODY right now, period...

[Jimmy Lemke]

No. Never get apathetic. That's the worst.

[uwmpanthers10]

Im getting sick of this, pathetic doesn't begin to speak to what the last 60 minutes of basketball for the Panthers have been. If they don't come out on fire in the first 5 minutes of the second half and Haarsma can stay out of foul trouble (assuming he comes out to play in the second half this time), then there is no point listening to this team both today and tomorrow just keel over and care more about spending time on the beach then the court.

[Tyrunner0097]

They must have decided that Davidson was all that mattered for the whole season.

[royalty414]

This performance is unacceptable.

[uwmpanthers10]

This performance is unacceptable.

And your early-season candidate for understatement of the year goes to...

[royalty414]

Maybe they're focused on school work.... hahaha

[royalty414]

Nobody cares that they're wearing black and gold. Nobody cares about the name on the front. Nobody cares about March.

[Kyle Rawling]

With the caveat that we have no video, it just sounds like they're playing undisciplined. They survive it at times, but this is the flip side to faster paced hoops.

[uwmpanthers10]

i get the feeling we'll be number 10 on the power poll next week, saying that we are #9 would be way to good for this team based on the last 60 minutes of basketball

[royalty414]

The entire culture of being a Milwaukee Panther basketball player needs to change NOW

[royalty414]

i get the feeling we'll be number 10 on the power poll next week, saying that we are #9 would be way to good for this team based on the last 60 minutes of basketball

I second that. #9 should be blank in respect for the 8 teams ahead of us.

[royalty414]

OMG... Haarsma scored!

[Tyrunner0097]

OMG ...a Free throw!

[uwmpanthers10]

Down to 8 ... combine the starts to both halves and we are 13-0 up, only problem is the rest of the game is 37-16 in their favor

[Jimmy Lemke]

Panthers trying to get the game going, but "every time they break pressure, the clock doesn't start."

[royalty414]

I really think we get cheated quite often by refs and now clock operators

[royalty414]

now no radio?

[Jimmy Lemke]

I Heart Radio is working for me.

Panthers within 5! Powell with 4 fouls and he sits!

[royalty414]

Haarsma with 3 fouls now

[Jimmy Lemke]

Nice. 11-2 run to start the second half!

[royalty414]

Can we keep this scoring pace for 20 minutes without a long lull?

[uwmpanthers10]

Haarsma staying in with 3, desperately need him to play smart basketball, can't afford to be without him for a long period of this game again as last time he sat they went on a huge run

Edit: really shouldn't have said anything ... $%#! there's number 4

[Jimmy Lemke]

Haarsma apparently just put up an ugly shot.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Two fouls in what...3 possessions on Haarsma? He's gonna have to sit with 15 minutes left. Media timeout.

[Jimmy Lemke]

uwmpanthers10 with the PROPHECY on that post.

[royalty414]

You should know you're not playing well when your shot attempt is followed by a Bill Johnson ewww and then pick up your 4th foul on the other end.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Haarsma staying in with 3, desperately need him to play smart basketball, can't afford to be without him for a long period of this game again as last time he sat they went on a huge run

Edit: really shouldn't have said anything ... $%#! there's number 4

A prophet. You are a prophet.

[uwmpanthers10]

My halftime post said that we need James to stay in the game, after he picks up a third, that the team can't afford him to pick up a fourth, five seconds later the worst possible thing happens. Need Kelm, Harris, and Wolf to be huge for us in every sense of the word now

[Jimmy Lemke]

Welcome to the Puerto Vallarta Convention Center, this weekend basketball next weekend Churro Convention.

[royalty414]

Meech with 10 points

[Jimmy Lemke]

Meanwhile we have a H-League final:

UIC 56
SEMO 45

also:

Detroit 62
Miami 77

Loyola is up 50-42 over NIU near the end.

[royalty414]

We're up to 38.9% shooting

[Jimmy Lemke]

Panthers turn over. Again. Great.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Another big 3 by Jacksonville. Good lo-uhd.

Bobo with a layup.

[royalty414]

Maybe Bobo can get into a rhythm... as he picks up his 3rd foul

[royalty414]

Bobo with 6 this half

[Jimmy Lemke]

Yes! Kelm with a good outlet pass and Bobo takes it to the hole.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Jeez Jordan, you GOTTA make those shots when you're in the paint.

[Jimmy Lemke]

I don't like that we couldn't take advantage of those missed shots. Gotta turn up the heat!

Austin Arians has got to get it going.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Wow O'Connor and Johnson not pulling any punches on the refs. This is surprising. Jordan Aaron with a big layup! One possession!

[uwmpanthers10]

Haarsma back with 10 minutes to go, he picked up a fourth within a minute of his third, hopefully this'll pay off but I have my doubts...

[Jimmy Lemke]

Damn. Finally the Dolphins hit one of their 3's.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Good lord, what a garbage couple of possessions. JU picks up 7 points like THAT.

[uwmpanthers10]

TURNOVERS!!!!! And now we are down 10 again.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Just when we started getting back in it. Gotta stop this ****.

[Jimmy Lemke]

They need to take this at Russell Powell. He either fouls out or gives up an easy basket. Obvious move in EVERY possession from here until he fouls out.

[Jimmy Lemke]

BOBO is on fire! Light it up Light it up!

[uwmpanthers10]

We are 1-10 from behind the arc and are still in this ball game (somehow)

[royalty414]

Bobo is taking over

[Jimmy Lemke]

Bittersweet Symphony is probably the best song for the beginning of this Panthers season.

[Jimmy Lemke]

We are 1-10 from behind the arc and are still in this ball game (somehow)

Two things surprising here.

1. We've only made one three-pointer.

2. We've only attempted ten.

[royalty414]

We need a great final 5 minutes to sneak this one out.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Phantom foul call on Jordan Aaron. Kevin O'Connor can't even say anything.

[uwmpanthers10]

"Foul on the floor, they'll charge it on Aaron!!"

[royalty414]

Haarsma back in for Wolf

[Jimmy Lemke]

Oh man Kevin O'Connor is just KILLING these officials right now.

[Spirit of Bruce]

Look out forum, Chad's home from work!

[royalty414]

4:07 left. 58-52 Jacksonville

[Jimmy Lemke]

Haarsma stays in the game.

[royalty414]

Haarsma bailed out by Arians. Would've fouled out. Would it have mattered?

[Spirit of Bruce]

Awful officiating as usual.

[royalty414]

When everybody says the refs suck, we can't all be wrong, can we?

[uwmpanthers10]

Demetrius has a double-double (14 and 11 according to the stattracker)

[Jimmy Lemke]

Jordan Aaron gets nailed in the balls and Bobo called on the foul.

[Jimmy Lemke]

16 offensive rebounds by Jax. There is your game. Can't give them second chances. Good lord box out.

[Spirit of Bruce]

7 points from the bench is totally unacceptable

[royalty414]

Chances of winning are looking bleek...

[Jimmy Lemke]

Haarsma draws a nice foul.

[royalty414]

Haarsma only makes 1 of 2 free throws

[Jimmy Lemke]

Harris, don't take no ****. Get pissed.

[Jimmy Lemke]

Time for some magic from Jay O. Gotta get this going. Like now.

[royalty414]

Did Bill Johnson just promote a Xavier-Cincinnati type brawl for our game?

[Jimmy Lemke]

Five point game. Need this stop BIG TIME

[royalty414]

64-59 1:14 to go

[Jimmy Lemke]

YES! BACK WITHIN THREE! GOTTA Get this stop!

[Jimmy Lemke]

Great. what a terrible foul by Jay O. Again he does it.

[royalty414]

3 point game! But Aaron fouls on the inbound

[uwmpanthers10]

only down 3 now ... cmon boys

[royalty414]

4 point game

[Jimmy Lemke]

How do you call an offensive foul on a 5'6'' player.

[royalty414]

offensive foul? wow!

[Spirit of Bruce]

Another loss to an inferior team. Wonderful.

[uwmpanthers10]

Bobo for threeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

[Jimmy Lemke]

Somehow we're back within three. Johnson and O'Connor are livid with the refs.

[royalty414]

BOBO! Down 3

[Spirit of Bruce]

Big 3 by BoBo!

[Spirit of Bruce]

Are we ever going to get a game with competent officials this year?

[royalty414]

Bulls Shirt!

[uwmpanthers10]

I want to be sick ... Bill sounds like hes gonna run out on the court and assault the officials

[Jimmy Lemke]

This is an absolute joke. The officials have no control on this game. They are calling an absolutely garbage game.

Again, like Carrera from South Carolina, the Panthers absolutely fail to bring a player with four fouls out of the game by getting him fouled out.

Just a joke. But O'Connor and Johnson's call is really making me wonder if this game was decided before the game.

[royalty414]

We may need to bring brown paper bags to Iowa next Saturday to put over our heads.

[DKelly28]

I think its safe to say that Milwaukee is the worst team in the Horizon League right now.

[uwmpanthers10]

We may need to bring brown paper bags to Iowa next Saturday to put over our heads.

Or vomit in if the team plays like they did in UALR and the first 30 or so minutes today

[Jimmy Lemke]

Ha I don't think we'll go that far, but the team needs a wake-up call in a big way.

[Spirit of Bruce]

I'm kind of starting to kick myself for committing to these road trips. It's going to be an awful year.

[Kyle Rawling]

Hard to know what to make of it without video. Improved 2nd half and it sounds like we got hosed from Bill Johnson. But that shouldn't surprise anyone, that's the way he calls every game. I hate that there's no video (yet anyway) to judge for myself. Regardless, don't put it in the refs' hands. UALR wasn't a wake up, maybe the 1st half here was.

[Spirit of Bruce]

First job of Mr. Paul Plinske. Find us a new coach. This program should never lose to the likes UALR or Jacksonville, much less back to back. I apologize to anyone here who may think my expectations are too high...

[Jimmy Lemke]

I would love to try and get my hands on some video.

[Jimmy Lemke]

I think the biggest problem here is there is a lack of motivation and a ho-hum culture surrounding hoops. It's time for some players to stop acting like primadonnas and start caring. Caring so much until it hurts.

[Jimmy Lemke]

I'm gonna step away from this for a few hours, come back and write something. See you all soon.

[uwmpanthers10]

I think the biggest problem here is there is a lack of motivation and a ho-hum culture surrounding hoops. It's time for some players to stop acting like primadonnas and start caring. Caring so much until it hurts.

+1000 need someone or something to kickstart this team and give them reason to fight, whether it be Jeter and the coaching staff finally tackling the problem, PG coming back and forcing his work ethic on the others, or something else. Its getting ridiculous to try to support this team when there are maybe 2 people on the court who are genuinely fighting for the team and the jersey

[Tyrunner0097]

Also, HOW HARD IS IT TO MAKE A LAY-UP?! If they made even half of those missed 1st half lay-ups, it would have been a different game...

[Derek Spallone]

Its an early season, if anyone should be embarrassed that would be Davidson lol

[lutzow10]

Its an early season, if anyone should be embarrassed that would be Davidson lol

Hahaha. Yeah. Poor Davidson. With how bad the last two games have been it had almost made me forget we beat them. They have to be banging their heads on the wall for losing to us.

Honestly I had to turn off the game after the first 30 minutes. I almost broke my phone from throwing it at the wall on one of those first half lay ups. I dont know what to think at this point.

[Jimmy Lemke]

I felt triumphant seven days ago. Today I feel embarrassed. What's it going to take for these Milwaukee Panthers to finally make a commitment and play with consistency?