Memphis Hoops

[Goose85]

Austin Nichols, ranked #49 by scout, is going to Memphis.

While I am very excited about our class, Memphis is looking loaded coming into the Big East.
Memphis 2013 (Scout rankings) - Nick King #20, Kuran Iverson #34, Austin Nichols #49, and Rashawn Powell #86

Glad to see they will come to the Big East strong - a great place to road trip for a game.

http://zagsblog.com/articles/austin-nichols-to-memphis/#more-82430

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Right now I get excited every time a current BE of future BE member gets a commit, we need all the strong teams we can get to show we still belong. I think most BE members see it because they know this league was always good, but we need to show the nation that we are still that strong. I don't think we are as strong as the ACC, but we certainly can keep up with the others in basketball.

[IWB]

Memphis 2013 (Scout rankings) - Nick King #20, Kuran Iverson #34, Austin Nichols #49, and Rashawn Powell #86[/url]

On top of that, they also have Markel Crawford. Crawford doesn't show up in the Scout rankings, but clocks in at #50 with Rivals and #56 with Prepstars.

That is 5 top 100 kids.

[Gato78]

Losing Syracuse and ND is huge but with the rise of Temple, SMU and Memphis, we may well have a BB conference that is equal to the ACC.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

I think we will lack top end teams... The ACC has Duke, UNC, and Syracuse... You can get that on most years one or two of those teams will be top 10 teams... The only team we have like that right now is Louisville.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

Losing Syracuse and ND is huge but with the rise of Temple, SMU and Memphis, we may well have a BB conference that is equal to the ACC.

Have to disagree and would favor the ACC in this one. Don't forget about losing Pitt and WVU (Big 12).

[bleedbluegold03]

On top of that, they also have Markel Crawford. Crawford doesn't show up in the Scout rankings, but clocks in at #50 with Rivals and #56 with Prepstars.

That is 5 top 100 kids.

All without one NCAA victory under his tenure....hmmm....

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Losing Syracuse and ND is huge but with the rise of Temple, SMU and Memphis, we may well have a BB conference that is equal to the ACC.


I did a quick run down of the six power conferences over the last 5 years, what I did was looked at the final top 25 rankings of the season and I counted how many top 25 teams, top 10 teams, and top 5 teams each conference would have had assuming all the changes were in place (Pitt, ND and Cuse to ACC, WVU to B12, Utah to P10, and UM and Temple to BE), this is what I found:

2007-2008
Conference: Top 25: Top 10: Top 5:
ACC 5 2 1
Big East 5 2 1
Big 10 3 1 0
Big 12 2 2 1
SEC 2 1 1
Pac 10 3 2 1


2008-2009
Conference: Top 25: Top 10: Top 5:
ACC 7 3 2
Big East 4 3 3
Big 10 3 1 0
Big 12 1 1 0
SEC 2 1 0
Pac 10 4 0 0

2009-2010
Conference: Top 25: Top 10: Top 5:
ACC 4 2 2
Big East 3 1 0
Big 10 4 2 1
Big 12 4 3 1
SEC 4 1 1
Pac 10 0 0 0

2010-2011
Conference: Top 25: Top 10: Top 5:
ACC 5 4 3
Big East 3 1 0
Big 10 3 1 1
Big 12 4 2 1
SEC 4 0 0
Pac 10 2 0 0

2011-2012
Conference: Top 25: Top 10: Top 5:
ACC 4 4 2
Big East 3 0 0
Big 10 6 3 1
Big 12 1 1 1
SEC 4 2 2
Pac 10 0 0 0


Now with all of this being said this certainly is not an indicator of future success, but it does show that they have a lot of REALLY good basketball programs and it is going to be hard for the Big East to match up, especially in that top 5 - 10 range.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Sorry for the formatting issue, I did this in an excel spreadsheet and I tried to get it to come over nicely but it appears no matter what I do it gets a bit jumbled up.

[Gato78]

Pitt is dead to me.


Have to disagree and would favor the ACC in this one. Don't forget about losing Pitt and WVU (Big 12).

[IWB]

Pitt is dead to me.

Completely agree.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

buzzwill4prez---great work with the numbers. I would have guessed ACC would have shown stronger. This definitely makes me feel a lot better about the picked apart Big East (at least until it's picked apart again)...as I would not have guessed it would look that strong sans the departed programs.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

No problem, I enjoy digging up information, wish I could paste excel files easier.

[bleedbluegold03]

Pitt is dead to me.

Pitt, more than any other institution in the NCAA, is the reason for our current predicament.

The ultimate example of the lack of any semblance of loyalty with conferences now a days and if they win another game, ever, it would be too soon in my opinion

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

BW4P, in the future try using code boxes. They are a little time-consuming as you try to line everything up right, but it took about 5-10 minutes to reconfigure the excellent info you pulled to make it easier to read. One of those little secrets of most message boards that people rarely use, but are very handy when trying to put up a table of information. You can also copy screen prints for excel images as .jpg files, but you can't manipulate those in the future, which is why code boxes are nice. Hope you don't mind me representing your data for you:


2007-2008
Conference: Top 25 Top 10 Top 5
ACC 5 2 1
Big East 5 2 1
Big 10 3 1 0
Big 12 2 2 1
SEC 2 1 1
Pac 10 3 2 1


2008-2009
Conference: Top 25 Top 10 Top 5
ACC 7 3 2
Big East 4 3 3
Big 10 3 1 0
Big 12 1 1 0
SEC 2 1 0
Pac 10 4 0 0

2009-2010
Conference: Top 25 Top 10 Top 5
ACC 4 2 2
Big East 3 1 0
Big 10 4 2 1
Big 12 4 3 1
SEC 4 1 1
Pac 10 0 0 0

2010-2011
Conference: Top 25 Top 10 Top 5
ACC 5 4 3
Big East 3 1 0
Big 10 3 1 1
Big 12 4 2 1
SEC 4 0 0
Pac 10 2 0 0

2011-2012
Conference: Top 25 Top 10 Top 5
ACC 4 4 2
Big East 3 0 0
Big 10 6 3 1
Big 12 1 1 1
SEC 4 2 2
Pac 10 0 0 0

Regarding Memphis' talent-level...that was never really the issue with Pastner, was it? I know he has a great class coming in, and it will almost certainly be ranked higher than ours will even if we do add Embiid, but he's had plenty of talent in the past and simply hasn't been able to translate that into anything beyond C-USA titles. He had 4 top-100 guys in his 2010 class, including three McDonald's All-Americans. In 2011, Adonis Thomas was a top-10 recruit and McDonald's AA as well. He has 2 more top-100s, including McDonald's All-American Shaq Goodwin coming this year. And all that has accounted for fewer wins in the NCAA Tournament in his first year at Marquette. I think it's a big add, but so far they've done a lot more impressive work in the living room than they have on the hardwood.

[IWB]

Ok, here is how to do it. There are a few ways, but this may be the cleanest.

1) Next to the button "post quick reply" is another button that says, "Go Advanced". Click that.

2) At the top the first button is an A/A. Click that, and that will allow the paste from Word button to activate. (You won't see this button unless you "Go advanced".

3) Click the "Paste from Word" button and you will be fine. (I know, it says Word, but also takes Excel)

That should do it. Seems like a lot, but once you have done it there is nothing to it.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Awesome! Thanks Jim! Glad you could get that original stuff cleaned up... I will definitely use this in the future. Often times when we are discussing things ill go back and look at stats or data just to see what the numbers say. I'll try posting more in the future when it's relevant.