Xavier Game Thread

[Nukem2]

Well, can our Warriors get to the semis? Game three agains the Muskateers.

[Mucrisco]

Duane's quick shots leads to easy baskets for the other team. That's an example of bad offense leading to bad defense.

[DCwarrior]

This could get ugly

[MayorBeluga]

im guessing settling for outside jumpers was not the game plan for a team which played the late game last night.

[TheSultan]

Yeah. I'm not liking the looks of this.

[Nukem2]

Yeah, this is a rotten start. And, Henry is on the bench. May have to reconsider that.

[milkbone]

Henry with 2 fouls already,

[DCwarrior]

Thank God for JJJ this game

[CaribouJim]

Crowd looks decent.

[CaribouJim]

Come on Traci - don't force it.

[DCwarrior]

Smart move putting HE back in the game. It's paid off so far. Hopefully he can avoid picking up his 3rd

[bleedbluegold03]

Nice response, could've gotten ugly after Henry's second.

JuJuan, Henry showing up early. Will need to Haanif and Luke to follow suit if we want a chance.

[DCwarrior]

Haanif needs to step up. He's having a terrible game so far.

[AbovetheRim]

What does Duane Wilson provide when he's not scoring and running up huge shot totals?

[CaribouJim]

Gus is bad about telling us what the calls are. There is a whistle and he keeps talking and play is resumed w/o telling us what the call is.

[DCwarrior]

What does Duane Wilson provide when he's not scoring and running up huge shot totals?

Whatever it is it's still more than Sandy

[IWB]

Sandy simply can't play d

[TheSultan]

Turn out the lights....

[DCwarrior]

Sandy simply can't play d

Sadly his D is much better than his O

[AbovetheRim]

Sandy simply can't play d

Isn't his D the reason the apologists say he plays?

[2012Warrior]

Henry has been a joy to watch this year, but JJJ's emergence has been a close second.

[TheSultan]

Yeah I'll be honest. I have no idea why Sandy plays right now. Would Wally be worse?

And I don't get the seven man rotation either.

[Markedman]

30 footer swish.....

[Markedman]

Jajuan Johnson (11), Henry Ellenson (10), Luke Fischer (7) have 28 of #mubb's 30 points. Everyone else is 1 for 13. MU shooting 34.4%.

[MayorBeluga]

Hate to say it, but this is multiple times this season that HE's immaturity shows up.

[bleedbluegold03]

Sandy simply can't play

Fixed that for you. I'll be surprised if he's here next year.

[2012Warrior]

I'm a complete homer and at a bar, but I can't see how that flagrant wasn't any more than legs getting tangled.

[DCwarrior]

I'm a complete homer and at a bar, but I can't see how that flagrant wasn't any more than legs getting tangled.

It was intentional. Did it warrant an intentional foul -- that's debatable.

[Nukem2]

I'm a complete homer and at a bar, but I can't see how that flagrant wasn't any more than legs getting tangled.

Yep.

[Markedman]

At least we aren't turning it over a lot.......Xavier is playing like our final 4 team did against Kentucky.

Step back 3s......30 footers.....you name it.

[mcwman]

this team is just weak...getting pushed around. No boards. AND, JUST CAN'T SHOOT.

[CaribouJim]

this team is just weak...getting pushed around. No boards. AND, JUST CAN'T SHOOT.

MU with only one player shooting .500 and X has only one not shooting .500 or above tonight.

[TheSultan]

Bad night. Marquette is mediocre. Might get an NIT bid but who knows.

[CaribouJim]

Farr traveled - not that it matters.

[MUfan12]

Bad night. Marquette is mediocre. Might get an NIT bid but who knows.

And if they don't, I'm at peace with the season being over. Just can't get excited about a pay to play tournament.

[DCwarrior]

I watch opposing players consistently get layups and shots off over our bigs. We really need an athletic big who can alter and block shots. Luke (and I'm guessing Matt as well) despite his height just isn't that type of defender.

[Nukem2]

Bad night. Marquette is mediocre. Might get an NIT bid but who knows.
I'm thinking Las Vegas.

[21rooster]

Sandy needs to sit, I don't care who comes in. Your man should never get his own board on a 3.

[MayorBeluga]

Hard to chalk this up as "one of those games" when it's the 5th up game in a row with no defense.

[21rooster]

Followed by the dumb and one. Sit him.

[AbovetheRim]

How bad is Sacar Anim? I can only assume he must be a D3 level player.

[21rooster]

If that's not a flagrant 1, what is?

[TheSultan]

Lol Wally.

[Nukem2]

X is shooting very very well.

[mcwman]

Is x up 20+ rebounds?

[DCwarrior]

Time to let Sacar, Matt and the walk-ins get their Madison Square Garden experience

[IWB]

How is it not offensive goaltending when the rebounder Grabs the ball and it gets caught on the rim?

[kneelb4zerg]

Hard to chalk this up as "one of those games" when it's the 5th up game in a row with no defense.

God damn you are butt hurt.

[Markedman]

Bluiett is an excellent player but he is shooting out of his mind. Boys vs men against this team. When they make 11 3s and we make 2 out of 16...

[pbiflyer]

Is it over yet? I stopped watching a while ago.

[IWB]

Wojo playing both Ellensons the last 10 mins of season - this is Wojo's way of saying thank you to Henry and his parents.

[21rooster]

Could be, but Wally belonged out there. He played smart, hustled and was a threat on offense. He belongs in the seven-man rotation if MU gets another game.

[bleedbluegold03]

Does "kneel" allude to your work on your knees for Marquette? Ever the apologist.

Criticism is allowed. Especially on a message board, for a team that won't even make the NIT for 3 years running.

[MU/Panther]

Press Conferences will be coming up on FOX SPORTS GO

[Markedman]

Does "kneel" allude to your work on your knees for Marquette? Ever the apologist.

Criticism is allowed. Especially on a message board, for a team that won't even make the NIT for 3 years running.


So you are now holding Wojo accountable for missing the NIT in Buzz's final year?

It was a complete rebuild...we lost a complete recruiting class and had numerous transfers after Buzz left...if you couldn't see that last year I don't know what to tell you.

We aren't Duke or Kentucky.....we can't change coaches and just reload in 1 year.

[Nukem2]

Well, we got whipped by a Top10 team tonite. Bucky got whipped by a bad Nebraska team tonite.

[CaribouJim]

Well, we got whipped by a Top10 team tonite. Bucky got whipped by a bad Nebraska team tonite.

The Iowa game was unexpected as well.

[AbovetheRim]

So you are now holding Wojo accountable for missing the NIT in Buzz's final year?

It was a complete rebuild...we lost a complete recruiting class and had numerous transfers after Buzz left...if you couldn't see that last year I don't know what to tell you.

We aren't Duke or Kentucky.....we can't change coaches and just reload in 1 year.

Depends on your definition of reload, but didn't Buzz pretty much do just that at Marquette early in his tenure and after losing nearly an entire recruiting class?

[TheSultan]

Depends on your definition of reload, but didn't Buzz pretty much do just that at Marquette early in his tenure and after losing nearly an entire recruiting class?


In Buzz's first two seasons, he had two teams dominated by four year upper classmen, three of whom ended up playing in the NBA. Wojo had two last year who weren't very talented, and none this year.

Buzz filled the gaps in the recruiting classes with Jucos, which is something much harder for Wojo to do.

They really aren't similar situations at all.

[Marquette]

Then compare it to what Buzz had at Virginia Tech. He had nothing there and picked up 1 top 100 recruit. This year he has been without 2 of his best players and finished in the top half of the best conference in the country with a 10-8 record.

[bleedbluegold03]

Then compare it to what Buzz had at Virginia Tech. He had nothing there and picked up 1 top 100 recruit. This year he has been without 2 of his best players and finished in the top half of the best conference in the country with a 10-8 record.

Bingo

I understand the want to write in reasons people should be patient, but let's not act as if other coach's have done more with less.

[TheSultan]

Then compare it to what Buzz had at Virginia Tech. He had nothing there and picked up 1 top 100 recruit. This year he has been without 2 of his best players and finished in the top half of the best conference in the country with a 10-8 record.


Cmon.

Virginia Tech went 19-13 (10-8) and had an RPI of 84.
Marquette went 20-13 (8-10) and had an RPI of about 100.

So let's not act like Buzz weaved some sort of magic this year. Virginia Tech had a marginally better season than Marquette did. And sure, Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. He should be. He has more experience.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Cmon.

Virginia Tech went 19-13 (10-8) and had an RPI of 84.
Marquette went 20-13 (8-10) and had an RPI of about 100.

So let's not act like Buzz weaved some sort of magic this year. Virginia Tech had a marginally better season than Marquette did. And sure, Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. He should be. He has more experience.

He also had a vastly more experienced team.

[Goose85]

He also had a vastly more experienced team.

As I've said before, next year we will have an experienced team, so we won't be able to use the inexperience tag with the group.

Seniors in Luke and JJ
4th year juniors in Wilson and Rowsey
5th year senior in Wally
Junior with experience in Sandy
Sophs Carter, Cheatham who have been starters
Only one frosh at this point in Hauser.

[Marquette]

He also had a vastly more experienced team.

Did he really? Remember we are talking about turning around a program not one year.

Virginia Tech
Zach LeDay 15.1ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
Seth Allen 14.6 ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
Justin Bibbs 12.1 ppg - Sophomore
Chris Clarke 8.5 ppg - Freshman
Jalen Hudson 7.9 ppg - Sophomore
Justin Robinson 7.6 ppg - Freshman
Kerry Blackshear 6.1 ppg - Freshman

And two of his best in Hill and Outlaw were out all year.

Marquette
Henry Ellenson 17 ppg - Freshman
Luke Fischer 12.1 ppg - Junior
Haanif Cheatham 11.8 ppg - Freshman
Duane Wilson 11.6 ppg - RS Sophomore
Jujuan Johnson 10.2 ppg - Junior
Sandy Cohen 5.9 ppg - Sophomore
Tracy Carter 5.4 ppg - Freshman


Now you guys are telling me Buzz's players had more experience?

Viginia Tech - None of their top 7 players were there when Buzz arrived and none were top 100.
2 Juniors, 2 Sophomores, 3 Freshmen

Marquette - Two of their top 7 players were here when Wojo arrived, another was committed. One McDonald's AA and all others are top 100 players.
2 Juniors, 2 sophomores, 3 Freshmen

Last night they showed the graphic with Marquette as the 8th youngest team in nation, where was Va Tech on that list? Don't tell me Buzz had a "vastly more experienced team".

Also finishing 10-8 and in the top half of the ACC is more than 'marginally better' than finishing 8-10 in the bottom half of the Big East.

[The Reptile]

The ACC argument is meaningless because the schedule is unbalanced. They beat only 2 of the ranked teams in conference - VA and Miami both at home. Their wins were against some really average teams at best. Given that, could they have done well in a BE with a balanced schedule. I'd argue that they'd do no better than we did.

[Nukem2]

Did he really? Remember we are talking about turning around a program not one year.

Virginia Tech
Zach LeDay 15.1ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
Seth Allen 14.6 ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
Justin Bibbs 12.1 ppg - Sophomore
Chris Clarke 8.5 ppg - Freshman
Jalen Hudson 7.9 ppg - Sophomore
Justin Robinson 7.6 ppg - Freshman
Kerry Blackshear 6.1 ppg - Freshman

And two of his best in Hill and Outlaw were out all year.

Marquette
Henry Ellenson 17 ppg - Freshman
Luke Fischer 12.1 ppg - Junior
Haanif Cheatham 11.8 ppg - Freshman
Duane Wilson 11.6 ppg - RS Sophomore
Jujuan Johnson 10.2 ppg - Junior
Sandy Cohen 5.9 ppg - Sophomore
Tracy Carter 5.4 ppg - Freshman


Now you guys are telling me Buzz's players had more experience?

Viginia Tech - None of their top 7 players were there when Buzz arrived and none were top 100.
2 Juniors, 2 Sophomores, 3 Freshmen

Marquette - Two of their top 7 players were here when Wojo arrived, another was committed. One McDonald's AA and all others are top 100 players.
2 Juniors, 2 sophomores, 3 Freshmen

Last night they showed the graphic with Marquette as the 8th youngest team in nation, where was Va Tech on that list? Don't tell me Buzz had a "vastly more experienced team".

Also finishing 10-8 and in the top half of the ACC is more than 'marginally better' than finishing 8-10 in the bottom half of the Big East.Actually those juniors are 4th year players.

[Nukem2]

Actually those juniors are 5th year players.And those 2 are VT's leading scorers and one is the leading rebounder.

[Marquette]

Fine we'll mark those two as seniors and bump Duane up to a junior.

Marquette still has 1 McD and 6 top 100 while Virginia Tech has zero and zero.