OT - Erin Andrews

[IWB]

Erin Andrews is awarded $55 million in her lawsuit.

[MayorBeluga]

How much of it is owed by Caribou for his "incident" with Miss Andrews?

[Gato78]

None. That was handled very quietly. Besides, he found her difficult because of her nasally voice. Not quite up to his standards.

[DCwarrior]

She's going to see very little of that $55M. $28M is supposed to come from the guy who filmed her...I doubt his net worth is anything after a few years in jail and attorney fees). The other $26M is owed by the franchisee Mariott hotel, which I'm sure will declare bankruptcy.

[CaribouJim]

None. That was handled very quietly. Besides, he found her difficult because of her nasally voice. Not quite up to his standards.

Her voice was annoying.

[unclejohn]

She's going to see very little of that $55M. $28M is supposed to come from the guy who filmed her...I doubt his net worth is anything after a few years in jail and attorney fees). The other $26M is owed by the franchisee Mariott hotel, which I'm sure will declare bankruptcy.

I doubt she needs or cares about the money. The big point is that it should not have happened and she ought to be treated as a professional doing a job. If she either puts a franchise hotel out of business or gets a bunch of money from them, she will have made her point. Good for her.

[Awilhelmscream]

Good for her. That was creepy and quite frankly, Marriott's initial response was complete BS. Like unclejohn said, I don't think it was as much about the money as it was proving a point.

[IWB]

The creepiness factor - Erin Andrews is scorching hot. If someone would say, "nude photos or videos of Erin" most guys would say, 'Really? Where?" But when it came out, the way it happened also came out and many guys, myself included, had no interest in seeing it. Not that way.

This was beyond creepy and that guy should be strung up by his satchel.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Good for her, I know she wont see all the money but nobody should ever have to experience that so I am happy that they dropped the hammer on the guy.

[CaribouJim]

The creepiness factor - Erin Andrews is scorching hot. If someone would say, "nude photos or videos of Erin" most guys would say, 'Really? Where?" But when it came out, the way it happened also came out and many guys, myself included, had no interest in seeing it. Not that way.

This was beyond creepy and that guy should be strung up by his satchel.

Us men are most definitely the creepier gender.

SI's Richard Deitsch weekly Sunday column paints a picture of how creepy we can be, although Prince Fielder showed how nice a gentleman he can be:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/03/06/erin-andrews-trial-women-media-safety

[CaribouJim]

She's going to see very little of that $55M. $28M is supposed to come from the guy who filmed her...I doubt his net worth is anything after a few years in jail and attorney fees). The other $26M is owed by the franchisee Mariott hotel, which I'm sure will declare bankruptcy.

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/03/07/erin-andrews-wins-55-million-hotel-lawsuit

[jpvegas52]

Talked to a lawyer friend of mine, he said more than likely she will settle, that way she'll get something. If it goes to an appeals trial, as has been discussed, bankruptcy will probably e declared and she'll get little to nothing.

[TheSultan]

Really interesting article on female sportscasters and safety.

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/03/06/erin-andrews-trial-women-media-safety

[ziggysfryboy]

Talked to a lawyer friend of mine, he said more than likely she will settle, that way she'll get something. If it goes to an appeals trial, as has been discussed, bankruptcy will probably e declared and she'll get little to nothing.

figure maybe $300k to $1.5M from the guy's homeowners insurance, if he had personal injury coverage (doubtful).

The Marriott operator will pony up their insurance limits, then declare bankruptcy.

She might get $6m max. 33% to the lawyers.

[mufansince72]

figure maybe $300k to $1.5M from the guy's homeowners insurance, if he had personal injury coverage (doubtful).

The Marriott operator will pony up their insurance limits, then declare bankruptcy.

She might get $6m max. 33% to the lawyers.

As creepy as that whole situation was, a jury verdict of 55 million was beyond ridiculous.

[KMWTRUCKS]

Somebody could get killed and would get 10% of that. Should the hotel acted better, I'm sure but did they actually think When they gave out her room info this would happen. A famous White sox player lived a few doors down till he retired and people would always ask me what house was his, and I would point it out. If that person did something would I be liable for 10 million. I know she will not get that amount, but to show she was truly wronged by 55 Mil and to award her that just shows how broke our legal system is and bad things happen to people every day. We live in a imperfect world

[Gato78]

This thread shows how men think as opposed to women. Women are horrified by this story. No one can say how much of the award she will receive since it depends on available insurance. The individual defendant's homeowners will not cover because there is likely an intentional act exception in the policy.

[ValiantSailor]

figure maybe $300k to $1.5M from the guy's homeowners insurance, if he had personal injury coverage (doubtful).

The Marriott operator will pony up their insurance limits, then declare bankruptcy.

She might get $6m max. 33% to the lawyers.

The verdict will be appealed, and everyone will reach an out-of-court agreement, that will come with a gag order. No one will go bankrupt. Erin may have had the money to retain her lawyers, rather than a contingency - in which case she'd get all the negotiated settlement.

VS

[IWB]

Somebody could get killed and would get 10% of that. Should the hotel acted better, I'm sure but did they actually think When they gave out her room info this would happen. A famous White sox player lived a few doors down till he retired and people would always ask me what house was his, and I would point it out. If that person did something would I be liable for 10 million. I know she will not get that amount, but to show she was truly wronged by 55 Mil and to award her that just shows how broke our legal system is and bad things happen to people every day. We live in a imperfect world

Two things...
First off, pointing out which house is that of a Sox player/neighbor is not exactly the same as booking some random caller in the room next to a female celebrity. When Katy Perry plays the Bradley Center, and I call the Pfister and request the hotel room next to hers, should they comply? Hell no - that is a HUGE difference!

Next - $55 million - Sure, it sounds insane, many of the high dollar suits always bug me when someone is awarded $10 million, $20 million, $50 million, but look at it this way... Did the guy that wronged her keep the video for himself? No, he broadcast it online. Cable companies pay the Big 10 $5.10 per household for crap nobody watches. Now this video was watched. It was watched 55 million times. How much would any network charge for advertising to 55 million viewers? How much would a porn company make for 55 million views? (trick question, its free unless you are doing it wrong).

How much should she be compensated? $1 dollar per view is not that crazy.

Don't look at it as whether or not she was wronged, look at it as how many times she was wronged. Hell, as of now the video/pics are still online and they always will be, so this is not going away. Slimy websites are still pulling page views off of this and will be for a long time, so they will continue to make cash after the court case. Is that right? No.

[CaribouJim]

Two things...
First off, pointing out which house is that of a Sox player/neighbor is not exactly the same as booking some random caller in the room next to a female celebrity. When Katy Perry plays the Bradley Center, and I call the Pfister and request the hotel room next to hers, should they comply? Hell no - that is a HUGE difference!

Next - $55 million - Sure, it sounds insane, many of the high dollar suits always bug me when someone is awarded $10 million, $20 million, $50 million, but look at it this way... Did the guy that wronged her keep the video for himself? No, he broadcast it online. Cable companies pay the Big 10 $5.10 per household for crap nobody watches. Now this video was watched. It was watched 55 million times. How much would any network charge for advertising to 55 million viewers? How much would a porn company make for 55 million views? (trick question, its free unless you are doing it wrong).

How much should she be compensated? $1 dollar per view is not that crazy.

Don't look at it as whether or not she was wronged, look at it as how many times she was wronged. Hell, as of now the video/pics are still online and they always will be, so this is not going away. Slimy websites are still pulling page views off of this and will be for a long time, so they will continue to make cash after the court case. Is that right? No.

Totally and completely agree with this Jim. On the same subject, I know people, including an ex-boss, who insist that this was all planned and she was in on it to generate more publicity for herself leading to more cash in her pocket. She couldn't have been more popular when this all happened - now in some respects, she is considered damaged goods. People will believe anything.

[mufansince72]

Two things...
First off, pointing out which house is that of a Sox player/neighbor is not exactly the same as booking some random caller in the room next to a female celebrity. When Katy Perry plays the Bradley Center, and I call the Pfister and request the hotel room next to hers, should they comply? Hell no - that is a HUGE difference!

Next - $55 million - Sure, it sounds insane, many of the high dollar suits always bug me when someone is awarded $10 million, $20 million, $50 million, but look at it this way... Did the guy that wronged her keep the video for himself? No, he broadcast it online. Cable companies pay the Big 10 $5.10 per household for crap nobody watches. Now this video was watched. It was watched 55 million times. How much would any network charge for advertising to 55 million viewers? How much would a porn company make for 55 million views? (trick question, its free unless you are doing it wrong).

How much should she be compensated? $1 dollar per view is not that crazy.

Don't look at it as whether or not she was wronged, look at it as how many times she was wronged. Hell, as of now the video/pics are still online and they always will be, so this is not going away. Slimy websites are still pulling page views off of this and will be for a long time, so they will continue to make cash after the court case. Is that right? No.

Meanwhile, you have celebrities like Kim Kardashian taking nude selfies of themselves and sending them all over the internet for free.

[Goose85]

Meanwhile, you have celebrities like Kim Kardashian taking nude selfies of themselves and sending them all over the internet for free.

Considering how Kardashian got her first shot at fame, a nude selfie is probably considered tame.

[TheSultan]

Meanwhile, you have celebrities like Kim Kardashian taking nude selfies of themselves and sending them all over the internet for free.


And how is this relevant?

[KMWTRUCKS]

My point is people make poor judgments, bad to awful decisions every day. So is 55 Million the bench mark for something that would be considered even with this then from there we could speculate something 1/2 as bad would get 25 mil and something worse could get 100 mil. I'm sure we have all been wronged or treated poorly at some level and probably all know someone that had something done to them that might in our minds be considered something close to what happened to Andrews. So if we use 55 Million and what was done to her as the baseline for damages then How much are other things worth? I'm not arguing that she was wronged and that the person that did it is a dirt/scumbag and the hotel used terrible judgment. I'm just saying that if our legal system thinks that she was wronged at 55 million then that sets the bar quite a bit higher then what I would think is reasonable. Insurance pays all/most of what she will collect and we all pay the insurance.

[TheSultan]

My point is people make poor judgments, bad to awful decisions every day. So is 55 Million the bench mark for something that would be considered even with this then from there we could speculate something 1/2 as bad would get 25 mil and something worse could get 100 mil. I'm sure we have all been wronged or treated poorly at some level and probably all know someone that had something done to them that might in our minds be considered something close to what happened to Andrews. So if we use 55 Million and what was done to her as the baseline for damages then How much are other things worth? I'm not arguing that she was wronged and that the person that did it is a dirt/scumbag and the hotel used terrible judgment. I'm just saying that if our legal system thinks that she was wronged at 55 million then that sets the bar quite a bit higher then what I would think is reasonable. Insurance pays all/most of what she will collect and we all pay the insurance.

Except the legal system hasn't reached its final conclusion. That's what appeals are for.

[mufansince72]

And how is this relevant?

It probably isn't relevant, just ironic.

I believe she was wronged, the guy is a scumbag, and the hotels were negligent. With that said, I think the jury award is insane. People are wronged all the time in society, to a much greater extent than seeing a naked woman on the internet. I just think this award is ridiculous compared to the pain and suffering that others in society go through.

If Erin Andrews wanted to pose nude voluntarily and have it published, how much do you think she would be paid? $100K, 200K, a million?

[IWB]

Upwards of $3-5 mil

[Gato78]

You guys are complete A hole. Replace Erin Andrews with your own daughter. What is that worth?

[IWB]

What? I said this is worth $1 per view, 55 million views, so $55 million. Then the question was asked how much would she get if she flat out agreed to pose in playboy and I said $3-5 mil.

She deserves any penny of the lawsuit, she was wronged in a major way. I still haven't seen video because I feel it is WAAAY wrong, and I would like to see her.

[mcwman]

Even if it were my daughters, I would think 55 million insanely rediculous

[unclejohn]

There is a real bid difference in you pointing out where your neighbor the athlete lives and a hotel giving access to a celebrity. You do not have any duty to keep your neighbors safe. If someone came to your door carrying an assault weapon and asked where your neighbor lived, that might be different, but for the most part, he is on his own. But a hotel has a duty to protect its guests, and if it is going to cater to celebrities, it has a duty to deal with the kind of protection they may require. That is particularly true when the celebrity is an attractive woman.

As for the money, the numbers are meaningless. It is monopoly money. As someone pointed out, it is mostly going to be paid by an insurance company, so it comes down to what kind of coverage the place has. But how much is it worth? How do you put a price on it? IWB suggested one way. I do not know what method the jury used, but it was likely not just pulled out of the air. The famous McDonald's coffee case that outraged some people was deceptive. What most people did not know was that the plaintiffs offered to settle it for medical expenses and what the plaintiff's daughter lost in work time taking care of her mother. As I recall, about $25,000. Mc Donald's dug in its heels. Then the jury decided that someone getting seriously hurt with McDonalds coffee was not only inevitable, but McDonalds knew it and decided that the greater profits were worth the risk. So the jury nailed McDonalds for one day's worth of coffee sales. And the court reduced the award anyway. It was a pretty fair decision. People get distracted by meaningless numbers.

[MUMac]

You guys are complete A hole. Replace Erin Andrews with your own daughter. What is that worth?

if she were my daughter, worth or money would not be what I was concerned with. An award is money, that is it.

[mufansince72]

You guys are complete A hole. Replace Erin Andrews with your own daughter. What is that worth?

You are a laywer, so probably don't see the forest through the trees. Your daughter could be raped, hit by a drunk driver, shot in a crowded movie theater. All things worse than having some naked photos taken and posted on the internet. How much will the jury give her for that? I'll answer for you, probably nothing. So when I look at it in that perspective, I think the jury award is extremely ridiculous.

[Gato78]

In our system, unfortunately, money is justice. I have never had a client, injured in an auto accident or some other calamity, who would rather have the money than good health. I am willing to bet Erin Andrews would say the same thing.

[mufansince72]

In our system, unfortunately, money is justice. I have never had a client, injured in an auto accident or some other calamity, who would rather have the money than good health. I am willing to bet Erin Andrews would say the same thing.

Look at it another way, if it was your daughter, would she get 55 million from the same jury?

[Gato78]

I hope so.

[mufansince72]

I hope so.

I don't think she would, which is why I have a huge problem with the award. She got that award in my opinion because of who she is, not because of what was done.

[TheSultan]

Which can all be sorted out on appeal. The process needs to be complete before indicting the legal system over this award.

[Gato78]

It is not an award, it is recompense.

[mufansince72]

It is not an award, it is recompense.

Jury award, compensation, whatever.

[jpvegas52]

TMZ did a breakdown of how much she is likely to get paid. Bottom line, the lawyers make out very well.


http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/08/erin-andrews-55-million-peephole-lawsuit/?source=gravity

[unclejohn]

TMZ did a breakdown of how much she is likely to get paid. Bottom line, the lawyers make out very well.


http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/08/erin-andrews-55-million-peephole-lawsuit/?source=gravity


Like I said, it's monopoly money. People can get all bent out of shape about the amount, but the amount is not what it seems. So Marriot's insurance company gets hit for a settlement. And where the money goes does not bother me either. If Andrews loses a big chunk of it to taxes, it is because she already makes a ton of money. She doesn't exactly need it, and if she has to settle for a "mere" six million, that is not so bad. And the attorneys make out like bandits. But they get taxed too, so they do not make out nearly as well as the article suggests. Big numbers like that can be sources for outrage, but they do not really mean anything. And the important part of this is that Marriot got slammed, and rightfully so. Perhaps your daughter would have gotten a smaller reward, but the hotel would have less reason to know who your daughter is and less reason to expect that someone might be stalking her and putting her pictures on the internet.

[Gato78]

Let's assume Marriott pays $25 million. I think an estimate of $1 million in costs is way too high. It seemed a relatively low cost case. Let's say $250,000 in costs. Usually attorneys take one-third. 40% is usually reserved for Med Mal based on the high costs associated with prosecuting. I assume nothing needs to be repaid in medical expenses though there is probably some reimbursement but minimal in comparison the the numbers involved. If these assumptions are used, Erin Andrews' gross recovery would be $16,750,000.00. Assuming a 40% effective tax rate, Andrews would net approximately $10,050,000.00. The lawyers, using the same effective tax rate and following repayment of expenses, would net $4,950,000.00 (which does not take into account overhead). So the estimates are all affected by the assumptions which TMZ made and are likely inaccurate.