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Nukem2
03-05-2016, 02:25 PM
Last regular season game coming up. A tough challenge for our Warriors.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 02:39 PM
TOs are rearing their ugly heads early on.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 02:45 PM
This could be a blowout.
MU_Iceman
03-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Great job MU! Way to play with a sense of urgency. Not like there is much on the line today...
shaquilvaine
03-05-2016, 02:49 PM
Butler much better defensively than I anticipated they would be... very physical
shaquilvaine
03-05-2016, 02:51 PM
Smart move by wojo to move JJJ onto Roosevelt Jones. He was abusing Carter
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 02:52 PM
Marquette played better small v Butler in Milwaukee too. Luke's fouls might be a blessing.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:02 PM
Wow, that was a charge on Jones.
ge1974
03-05-2016, 03:03 PM
Once again the refs suck big time,
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:04 PM
I've heard of home cooking but this is ridiculous.
Awilhelmscream
03-05-2016, 03:04 PM
We can't buy a call right now.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:04 PM
Once again the refs suck big time,
Yep, and very one-sided.
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 03:06 PM
Unbelievable calls. The little guard from Butler charges and gets a blocking call and Sandy barely pushes off and gets a charge. Jones uses his lead arm every time. If they call that on Sandy they better call it on Jones.

Henry and Traci are getting chippy as a result.
IrwinFletcher
03-05-2016, 03:08 PM
This is quite frankly the worst display of officiating this season. How the F#$#%k foes Luke get called for a foul on a guy shooting a 3 point shot and the guy doesn't get 3 FTs. The foul on Sandy was comical. I thought Wojo should have gotten a T and get in the refs grill.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:13 PM
Bad refs or not, MU has not played very well.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:16 PM
Bad refs or not, MU has not played very well.
Now down 45-27. Ouch.
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 03:16 PM
Outside of that one stretch, Marquette has looked terrible. Getting seriously out hustled.
MU_Iceman
03-05-2016, 03:18 PM
MU takes some of the stupidist shots i have ever seen a team take....This Butler defense is ranked 119 in the country...you are making them look special. Nah, let's not get the ball inside...let's just jack up stupid, quick jumpshots. And inevitably EVERY time they do that at crucial parts of games, it KILLS them. Guess they wanna play 4 in 4 days. You worked Butler over at home....you stopped Jones, now you can't??
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:18 PM
nobody can guard Jones
MUMac
03-05-2016, 03:19 PM
Bad refs or not, MU has not played very well.

Yes, but they factored in MU not playing well. When MU was on the run, 3 critical blown calls against MU. Tough not to let that crappy officiating get into the minds of a young team on the road.

The BE officiating has been awful all season. This was the worst of the worst.

I suspect, though, sultan will defend them as he typically does. :mad:
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:19 PM
Butler can't miss.....we can't get a rebound or run our offense
mufan2003
03-05-2016, 03:19 PM
Wow, a foul on Butler.
MU_Iceman
03-05-2016, 03:20 PM
Playing for everything today...and this is the effort we get?? I'm going to say this and then I'm out...there is ZERO doubt in my mind Shaka would have this team in the NCAA's.
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 03:21 PM
Good. Get the **** out of here.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:21 PM
From a league perspective, the positive is that MU is helping Butler punch it's ticket to the NCAAs.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:21 PM
Bye
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 03:22 PM
Yes, but they factored in MU not playing well. When MU was on the run, 3 critical blown calls against MU. Tough not to let that crappy officiating get into the minds of a young team on the road.

The BE officiating has been awful all season. This was the worst of the worst.

I suspect, though, sultan will defend them as he typically does. :mad:

Hey cool. Mr Angry makes it personal again.

Refs have been bad. Marquette has been much, much worse.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:22 PM
**** you

Yep. Say goodbye Iceman.
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 03:26 PM
That wasn't a foul on Etherington moving out Cohen?
Gato78
03-05-2016, 03:32 PM
NCAA record for most phantom fouls in a half. Marquette at Butler 2016.
Gato78
03-05-2016, 03:34 PM
Good. Get the **** out of here.

And 1
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 03:37 PM
Before the end of this game Henry may lose it cool to the point that he's thrown out of the game. He's one high elbow away from getting tossed as the ref has already talked to him.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:37 PM
Hopefully our guys can put the first half (and those unbelievable refs) behind them and play solid basketball in the second half. Wojo must be besides himself in the locker room.
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 03:42 PM
Hey cool. Mr Angry makes it personal again.

Refs have been bad. Marquette has been much, much worse.

Certainly you can see that your last sentence is hugely an affect of the sentence before that.
CaribouJim
03-05-2016, 03:44 PM
Is JJJ hurt?
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 03:44 PM
To a point yes. Not to this extent.
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 03:50 PM
Hank is having himself a game.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Is JJJ hurt?
JJ back in. Think Wojo just shuffled things after that first half. Sandy looks ok today.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:53 PM
We took care of the ball so well against the Hoyas and then kick it all over the court today.

No consistency....
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Luke can't go into the guy.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Luke just can't play without fouling.....granted he always has 1 or 2 that are iffy
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:57 PM
At least we know Henry is ok physically.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 03:59 PM
Another **** offensive foul call on Henry
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:00 PM
Luke can't go into the guy.
That's consistently been his issue.
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 04:01 PM
Henry coast to coast with euro step.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 04:02 PM
Just can't guard them of the dribble.
DCwarrior
03-05-2016, 04:03 PM
Still don't understand why we don't play zone more often. Our guys can't guard anyone man-to-man
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:05 PM
Another **** offensive foul call on Henry
Yep, Roosevelt Jones should then be called for a foul every time he goes to ypthe hoop.
DCwarrior
03-05-2016, 04:05 PM
Why is Cohen playing?
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 04:05 PM
JJ back in. Think Wojo just shuffled things after that first half. Sandy looks ok today.

By today, do you mean today? I certainly see nothing coming from the guy wearing the #5 jersey.
TheSultan
03-05-2016, 04:06 PM
Sandy is trying way too hard and only making things worse.
CaribouJim
03-05-2016, 04:07 PM
Why is Cohen playing?

I'm assuming JJJ has the flu or something? He was the one who led the charge in the first half run. What gives?
Markedman
03-05-2016, 04:11 PM
Wally what was that? Come on
Markedman
03-05-2016, 04:14 PM
Henry is a 1 man team today.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:17 PM
Sandy is trying way too hard and only making things worse.
At least he is trying to be aggressive. He is not the problem today.
russguss
03-05-2016, 04:18 PM
A little payback for Henry getting abused .. :cool:
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 04:18 PM
At least he is trying to be aggressive. He is not the problem today.

Right now, he is a problem every time he steps on the court. Playing 4 against 5 will always be a problem.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:25 PM
Right now, he is a problem every time he steps on the court. Playing 4 against 5 will always be a problem.

Who has played well today? Hmm, Sandy just hit 2 3s. Give the kid a break..
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 04:29 PM
Who has played well today? Hmm, Sandy just hit 2 3s. Give the kid a break..

Yeah, and in crunch time too! Actually, I hope that can somehow get him out of his funk because it is obvious Wojo has no plans to play Anim, which in my mind, is absolutely absurd. Kid should be out there getting some experience right now, not Sandy.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 04:30 PM
Nice 2nd half for Sandy.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:34 PM
Yeah, and in crunch time too! Actually, I hope that can somehow get him out of his funk because it is obvious Wojo has no plans to play Anim, which in my mind, is absolutely absurd. Kid should be out there getting some experience right now, not Sandy.
No need to be sarcastic. We get that you don't like his play. Hope this game helps him as well.
Markedman
03-05-2016, 04:34 PM
Worst game for Cheatham in awhile.....really did nothing today.
TedBaxter
03-05-2016, 04:37 PM
Wojo going to get a reprimand as he's going to mention the refs in the press conference.
MUMac
03-05-2016, 04:38 PM
Worst game for Cheatham in awhile.....really did nothing today.

You could retype this with almost everyone, outside of Henry.
MUMac
03-05-2016, 04:39 PM
Wojo going to get a reprimand as he's going to mention the refs in the press conference.

I don't think he will. In a blowout, that comes off as hollow.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:39 PM
I don't think he will. In a blowout, that comes off as hollow.
Agreed.
IrwinFletcher
03-05-2016, 04:45 PM
For anyone to go to the blame Sandy for this game just doesn't like the kid. He was the least of our problems today.

All in all, just a forgettable game. You could see the frustration in the whole team's body language. Gotta hope they can recover mentally.
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 04:47 PM
No need to be sarcastic. We get that you don't like his play. Hope this game helps him as well.

No. You don't get it. It's not at all that I don't like his play. He has been absent from this team for whatever reason for the 2nd half of the season. Him scoring a few points when we are down 30 and Butler was just coasting doesn't really prove anything to me. It is one of the biggest drop offs I can ever remember seeing. He shouldn't be playing extensive, meaningful minutes unless we have thrown in the towel for this season.

I have nothing against the kid. I love his story. I want Wojo's first recruit, especially a Wisconsin kid with a sister at Marquette also, to have success. But I don't want that at the expense of my team's success. And, I apologize if it came off that I thought Sandy was our biggest problem today. He was no more of a problem today as any other conference game this season.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:51 PM
For anyone to go to the blame Sandy for this game just doesn't like the kid. He was the least of our problems today.

All in all, just a forgettable game. You could see the frustration in the whole team's body language. Gotta hope they can recover mentally.

Hopefully our guys can right the ship for the SJU on Wednesday. Nothing went right today except for Henry's scoring (though his defense was rather suspect). We move on after another valley following the peaks at CU and against G-town. All in the process.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:55 PM
No. You don't get it. It's not at all that I don't like his play. He has been absent from this team for whatever reason for the 2nd half of the season. Him scoring a few points when we are down 30 and Butler was just coasting doesn't really prove anything to me. It is one of the biggest drop offs I can ever remember seeing. He shouldn't be playing extensive, meaningful minutes unless we have thrown in the towel for this season.

I have nothing against the kid. I love his story. I want Wojo's first recruit, especially a Wisconsin kid with a sister at Marquette also, to have success. But I don't want that at the expense of my team's success. And, I apologize if it came off that I thought Sandy was our biggest problem today. He was no more of a problem today as any other conference game this season.i get all that, but he was probably the best guy on the court for MU today other than Henry. Give him credit. Mabe he has turned the corner. Homer and Mac just gave him the 6th man award for today. May not be much, but maybe it's a start. That's all I am saying. You don't seem to get that. TODAY.
AbovetheRim
03-05-2016, 04:57 PM
No need to be sarcastic. We get that you don't like his play. Hope this game helps him as well.

Hope is not a strategy. Lot's of people hoped Derrick Wilson would be something better than what he was. Sandy and Derrick are very similar players in my mind.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 04:59 PM
Hope is not a strategy. Lot's of people hoped Derrick Wilson would be something better than what he was. Sandy and Derrick are very similar players in my mind.
Derrick is history. Sandy still has 2 years to go to fulfill his destiny. Need I mention JaJuan Johnson. I really don't get some folks here.
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 05:01 PM
i get all that, but he was probably the best guy on the court for MU today other than Henry. Give him credit. Mabe he has turned the corner. Homer and Mac just gave him the 6th man award for today. May not be much, but maybe it's a start. That's all I am saying. You don't seem to get that. TODAY.

Guess I look for more than being the best guy on the court during garbage time. While the game was somewhat competitive, he was a non-factor.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 05:02 PM
Guess I look for more than being the best guy on the court during garbage time. While the game was somewhat competitive, he was a non-factor.
As we're all the others other than Henry on offense. At least he was aggressive. We move on.
MUMac
03-05-2016, 05:04 PM
Guess I look for more than being the best guy on the court during garbage time. While the game was somewhat competitive, he was a non-factor.

His foul on the fast break in the first half was emblematic of his issues. He had no confidence to challenge the shot, was tentative and then tried to avoid the contact and had just a horrendous foul that lead to a 3 point play. Confidence leads to poor decision making. He needs the offseason to come more than anyone else on the team.
MUAlphaBangura
03-05-2016, 05:09 PM
His foul on the fast break in the first half was emblematic of his issues. He had no confidence to challenge the shot, was tentative and then tried to avoid the contact and had just a horrendous foul that lead to a 3 point play. Confidence leads to poor decision making. He needs the offseason to come more than anyone else on the team.

That may actually have been the saddest thing I have seen on the court this season.
AbovetheRim
03-05-2016, 07:14 PM
Derrick is history. Sandy still has 2 years to go to fulfill his destiny. Need I mention JaJuan Johnson. I really don't get some folks here.


That's precious as you were one of those front and center hating on JJJ.

Only fools questioned JJJ's ability. Few would question those calling out Sandy's ability at this level. Just look at the conference numbers and do the eye test when the games matter.
Nukem2
03-05-2016, 07:23 PM
That's precious as you were one of those front and center hating on JJJ.

Only fools questioned JJJ's ability. Few would question those calling out Sandy's ability at this level. Just look at the conference numbers and do the eye test when the games matter.

Uhh, not me. I was one of the few who advocated playing JJ the past two years. My issue was always Derrick.